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stealth007008
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MZ Vs GZ Wed, 12 October 2005 00:01 Go to next message
do mz20 and gz20 have the same body shell/chassis - the reason i ask it that im going to japan soon and might get a roll cage, however they only list them for gz's which ar far more popular over there it seems
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Re: MZ Vs GZ Wed, 12 October 2005 00:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
yes, the GZ is the lighter of the cars and thus why would would use it to build up a race car.
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Re: MZ Vs GZ Wed, 12 October 2005 01:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
same chassis Smile

bring me back one while you are at it Wink

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yes, the GZ is the lighter of the cars and thus why would would use it to build up a race car.


that and the 7M is teh poo Razz
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Re: MZ Vs GZ Wed, 12 October 2005 01:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
MR 1JZ wrote on Wed, 12 October 2005 11:50

same chassis Smile

bring me back one while you are at it Wink

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yes, the GZ is the lighter of the cars and thus why would would use it to build up a race car.


that and the 7M is teh poo Razz


The man has a point.
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Re: MZ Vs GZ Wed, 12 October 2005 02:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
BlackSupra wrote on Wed, 12 October 2005 10:05

yes, the GZ is the lighter of the cars and thus why would would use it to build up a race car.


am just curious if the same weight differences are present in a MZ10 versus GZ1x comparison?

cheers, charles.
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Re: MZ Vs GZ Wed, 12 October 2005 02:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Well the main weight difference between the GZ and MZ is in the motor (7m being heavier) and all the extra electronics like airbag suspension, TV etc.

After removing my interior im willing to say there is negligable difference between the weight of the leather and the cloth interiors. The leather back seat would weigh no more than 5kg!

Most of the weight is in the chassis in these cars it seems.

In reference to the z10, it would be a similar case of 1g vs 6m.

You don't have all the extra weight of the turbo gear to worry about, but if you're looking to change the motor id say there would be bugger all differance between them once the motor is removed in that evolution of the car.

But that is purely a guess.
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Re: MZ Vs GZ Wed, 12 October 2005 03:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
thanks for that

we (self & wilbo) have MZ10 (interior now gutted) and have a choice of 7mge or 1ggte for powerplants. gearbox is currently wilbo's spare W58.

So it will be trade off of extra-torque (7M) versus lighter powerplant with less torque (1G).

Track work would probably favour the 1G, whereas 7M (or a downgrade to 6mge with 7m crank) probably better for rally/autocross?

ta,
charles.
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Re: MZ Vs GZ Wed, 12 October 2005 03:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
I'm guessing this guy has an MZ but can only find cages for the GZs and was wondering if they fit, not which one is the better car Razz
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Re: MZ Vs GZ Wed, 12 October 2005 03:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
best comparison, think of it as an ma61
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Re: MZ Vs GZ Wed, 12 October 2005 03:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
MZ's are not much more than a Supra with a engine bay that's easier to lean into (while holding a heavy engine head) and no heavy hatch Very Happy
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Re: MZ Vs GZ Wed, 12 October 2005 04:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
should fit no probs,

mz > gz
HAH!
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Re: MZ Vs GZ Wed, 12 October 2005 04:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
waxE wrote on Wed, 12 October 2005 13:32

should fit no probs,

mz > gz
HAH!


and JZZ greater than all Razz
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Re: MZ Vs GZ Wed, 12 October 2005 06:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
ill rebuild my headgasket and you rebuild your turbos...
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Re: MZ Vs GZ Wed, 12 October 2005 07:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
waxE wrote on Wed, 12 October 2005 16:27

ill rebuild my headgasket 8 times and you rebuild your turbos...once


fixed for you Smile
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Re: MZ Vs GZ Wed, 12 October 2005 09:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
ahaha i guess id be jaded... but ive never had a blown headgasket haha
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Re: MZ Vs GZ Wed, 12 October 2005 14:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
ahhhh fuck, i want a soarer again Sad
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Re: MZ Vs GZ Wed, 12 October 2005 14:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Buy my Soarer! Very Happy
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Re: MZ Vs GZ Wed, 12 October 2005 16:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
just stirring the shit dude Wink

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Re: MZ Vs GZ Wed, 12 October 2005 18:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
i like my new soarer Very Happy GZ20 is nice Cool Cool Cool Cool
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Re: MZ Vs GZ Thu, 13 October 2005 00:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
coFF33 wrote on Thu, 13 October 2005 03:36

i like my new soarer Very Happy GZ20 is nice Cool Cool Cool Cool


go for a ride in a 1JZ powered soarer...

your opinion will change very quickly...
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stealth007008
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Re: MZ Vs GZ Thu, 13 October 2005 00:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
go for a ride in a 34 gtr - that soon change YOUR mind
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stealth007008
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Re: MZ Vs GZ Thu, 13 October 2005 00:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
uve got to stick with what ya got - that also includes the enngine
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Re: MZ Vs GZ Thu, 13 October 2005 02:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
stealth007008 wrote on Thu, 13 October 2005 10:47

uve got to stick with what ya got - that also includes the enngine


NO WAY! Stick the best one you can afford in there.
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Re: MZ Vs GZ Thu, 13 October 2005 02:21 Go to previous message
ive sat in an r32 gtr.

needless to say i shat myself and never want those kinds of speeds/power levels.

im settling for 250rwhp in a cressy.

1JZ though...

i wouldve thought the only difference between MZ and GZ was mechanicals, technically speaking, the chassis and body should be identical.

Eldar.O.
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