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SL666
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1jz - soarer/chaser/etc Auto's Tue, 18 October 2005 01:55 Go to next message
Hey guys,

Ive got a 1Jz going into my hilux, its sitting in there.. its a soarer motor, with a chaser trans, which has caused a few issues.

im running the stock ECU and loom, but need a slipper yoke output on the box (which the chaser one has)


- the Chaser trans has different sensors/plugs in it, can i just bolt on the soarer items to make it plug in?

- the chaser trans have slipper yoke outputs, which is great, i believe soarer ones have a fixed output? (the v8 ones do) can this be changed?

- am i better off to get a whole good soarer trans and change the output? or just change the sensors over onto the chaser box?

how many other variants are there of this?
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Re: 1jz - soarer/chaser/etc Auto's Tue, 18 October 2005 03:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
I'm in a similar situation... Check this out...

http://forums.toymods.org.au/index.php?t=msg&t h=31866&rid=71&S=a6881f41d210b8e40806b7748 ecfae69&pl_view=&start=0

Cheers.
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Re: 1jz - soarer/chaser/etc Auto's Tue, 18 October 2005 06:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
you have to change the rear sensor on the gbox

not the one fo rthe speedo but the one for th egbox

u also have to remove back cover off the gobx and there is a ring with 32 teeth u need to cut of some teeth so u only have 4 left all equal distance

i have a device that might be able to convert the crown sensor to suit the soarer ecu but it will cost about 400 in parts and labour

and i havnt tested it on another car yet so not sure if it will work

but the device does divide tghe signal from 32 to 4 teeth then also changes it from digital to analog which is what the soarer needs
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Re: 1jz - soarer/chaser/etc Auto's Tue, 18 October 2005 07:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Another option.

SP2 on the crown box is a different signal to the soarer box.
This is to get a soarer sensor fitted to a crown box.

Crown sensor fitted
http://conceptual.net.au/~peewee/eng_conv_2/sp2_adaptor_1.jpg

Soarer sensor doesn't fit
http://conceptual.net.au/~peewee/eng_conv_2/sp2_adaptor_2.jpg

Adaptor I designed
http://conceptual.net.au/~peewee/eng_conv_2/sp2_adaptor_3.jpg

Adaptor fitted
http://conceptual.net.au/~peewee/eng_conv_2/sp2_adaptor_4.jpg

Soarer sensor fitted to Crown box
http://conceptual.net.au/~peewee/eng_conv_2/sp2_adaptor_5.jpg



The only bit I haven't showed is the Crown's 32tooth chopper wheel has been cut down to 4 teeth (ie, I ground 28 teeth off with the dremel)
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Re: 1jz - soarer/chaser/etc Auto's Tue, 18 October 2005 09:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
if anyone wants to try a device so u can run a soarer with crown sensors let me know

1st one in gets free labour if they come to me hehe
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Re: 1jz - soarer/chaser/etc Auto's Tue, 18 October 2005 11:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
tops... but does anyone know about chaser into soarer?
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Re: 1jz - soarer/chaser/etc Auto's Tue, 18 October 2005 11:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
oops i was thinkin of 1uz

the chaser gbox has digital sensor with 32 teeth

u need to convert that to analog signal with 4 teeth

my device should work but i havnt tried it physically

on the bench the device works

you should be able to run this without touchin any of the sensors on th egbox

just need to run power and earth to sensor
then power my device up and there is a signal in and out

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Re: 1jz - soarer/chaser/etc Auto's Tue, 18 October 2005 12:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Some of the Toyotas actually have 4 tooth chopper wheels so you don't even have to get creative with the Dremel. Chopper wheel clips into place just like in the thread I started that ZZT231 highlighted.

Pretty much swap sensors over. Job done. Looks factory too.
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Re: 1jz - soarer/chaser/etc Auto's Tue, 18 October 2005 12:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
yes but it means pullin box apart

soarers have 4 teeth gears
and 2 wire sensors


chasers and crowns have 32 teeth and 3 wire sensors

chasers and crowns have the signal from the back of the gbox run thru the abs ecu then gets modified then goes to the auto or engine ecu

so in the end its gets complicated if u use a chaser ecu

if its easy to get rear off the gbox then its easier to do that

but u need to find someone with spares from a soarer gbox

i can get a gbox if you want one for 50 bucks
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Re: 1jz - soarer/chaser/etc Auto's Tue, 18 October 2005 20:10 Go to previous message
i'll pm you Smile

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