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ROTAROLA
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What ECU for 2TGEU.... Sat, 22 October 2005 01:21 Go to next message
just wanting to know what others have used an which 1s people think are the beest to use??

also should i go fuel only and keep the elec dizzy or go all out and get full ingnition and fuel???

cheers Preston
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Re: What ECU for 2TGEU.... Sat, 22 October 2005 05:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Budget?
Application?
Goals?

More information required.

Until the above questions are answered I recommend;

1) fit M800 with full engine and chassis data logging and dash display
2) convert to hall sensor and multi-coil direct fire ignition in place of distributor
3) retrofit ITB's
4) ???
5) profit

Hope this helps.

[Updated on: Sat, 22 October 2005 05:36]

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Re: What ECU for 2TGEU.... Sat, 22 October 2005 05:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Hi,

For a classic engine like a 2TGEU I think the best solution is to throw the EFI to the shithouse and whack on a nice set of side draught. Go for Solex (but these are getting hard to find) or Webbers.

You'll have a venturi per cylinder, with a great sound and, if well tuned, no flat spots or problems through the entire rev range and you'll have as much power as EFI can give you.

seeyuzz
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Re: What ECU for 2TGEU.... Sat, 22 October 2005 05:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
buget is around 2 grand

aplication is for street use/ daily driver..

sumfin ova 120rwhp..

say if i was to keep the dizzy would a micro-tech mt4 be good enough for above 120rwhp..

btw the engine is in a KE35..

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Re: What ECU for 2TGEU.... Sat, 22 October 2005 05:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
well if uve got the manifold for the side draught carbies and webbers to go with it i may think about it.

other wise the EFI stays..

sorry River
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Re: What ECU for 2TGEU.... Sat, 22 October 2005 05:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Re: What ECU for 2TGEU.... Sat, 22 October 2005 06:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
"sumfin ova" 120hp at the wheels is what, about 90 kw? What configuation are you using to get this power?

Sure, you can use an MT4 with the existing distributor to control fuel. I was planning to do this until I got my hands on a set of 44PHH carbs.

If your budget is 2000 for injection, consider a set of throttle bodies too. They're about $1200 though, so may not fall within the budget if you need someone to install the computer etc. for you also.
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Re: What ECU for 2TGEU.... Sat, 22 October 2005 07:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
ive got the un numbered yamaha head with the older 9.8:1 compression pistons.

i avent driven with the engine yet so i dont really know much about it at all.

but the MT4 was wat i was thinkin.

but i dont want to spend money on sumthin that is goin to inprove the current setup.

so i was wonderin wat other set up people are using??
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Re: What ECU for 2TGEU.... Sat, 22 October 2005 07:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
ROTAROLA wrote on Sat, 22 October 2005 17:24

but i dont want to spend money on sumthin that is goin to inprove the current setup.


well.. you could give the money to me... that will certainly not improve your current setup Razz
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Re: What ECU for 2TGEU.... Sat, 22 October 2005 08:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
wat i meant oldcorollas was i dont want to spend money on sumfin that wont improve my setup.
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Re: What ECU for 2TGEU.... Sat, 22 October 2005 14:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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i avent driven with the engine yet so i dont really know much about it at all.


Is the motor assembled or disassembled?
If disassembled, are they the standard 9.8:1 OEM pistons?
If assembled, are you sure those pistons are fitted, and has the motor been run at all by a previous owner?
If disassembled, can you post or email a photo of your cylinder head, showing the deck mounting face (ie. combustion chamber side)?

I don't think you'll achieve 90kw at the wheels from the standard 2 valve per cylinder hemi head and close-to-standard displacement, but I'm happy to be surprised. I'm also building a 2T-G derivative at the minute, so quite interested in your progress, let me know how it goes!

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so i was wonderin wat other set up people are using??

89x78mm bore and stroke
300/300 adv duration, .430" lift at valve
44PHHs
some supporting durability work

not finished yet, slow progress pending other priorities.
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Re: What ECU for 2TGEU.... Sat, 22 October 2005 14:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
ROTAROLA wrote on Sat, 22 October 2005 15:42

well if uve got the manifold for the side draught carbies and webbers to go with it i may think about it.


Not hard to get set up with some practically new sidedrafts and manifold for less than the cost of that MT4 if you are actually interested. Any reason in particular why they'd have to be Weber carbs?
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Re: What ECU for 2TGEU.... Sat, 22 October 2005 15:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
doesnt have to be webers....

solexs will do fine..

sorry september the motor its assembled.

the guy i got the engine off is on these forums. hes from perth and his name is Domanic.

he had the engine in a RA28 and he said traction was a minor issue..

but im not sure wat suspension set up or wat not he was usein.

but he didnt geve me any power out put figures at all..

i guess i could ask him..

wat u doin wif ur 2TG??? wat u puttin it in and wat u usein it for???

cheers Preston



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Re: What ECU for 2TGEU.... Sat, 22 October 2005 16:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message


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wat u doin wif ur 2TG??? wat u puttin it in and wat u usein it for???

Posting in 1337 sp33k guarantees frustration on the part of the most knowledgable and hence useful users and a consequential deterioration in the value of the collective knowledge pool... and Ed the 'tech' section god or JCMF the English nazi will pwn you. Trying to be helpful not insulting here.

My motor basic spec is above. Application will be tarmac events (sprint, hillclimb, etc.) but also spirited road and highway use as I spend some time out about my girlfriend's place in the Yarra Valley east of Melbourne. Not intended for urban street racing.

Will be in KE70 Corolla (4 door sedan). Basic info here.

If you're interested in a pair of Solex 40PHH carbs, rebuilt and with manifold to suit, PM me.

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Re: What ECU for 2TGEU.... Sat, 22 October 2005 16:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
well whats the difference between the 40PHH carbies and the 44PHH ones?

Different sizes I'm guessing.

i quite like the look of your engine..

I've looked at it before.

might do something similar if u don't mind.
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Re: What ECU for 2TGEU.... Sat, 22 October 2005 16:16 Go to previous message
how much has it all cost u so far?? The Engine work??

cheers Preston
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