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Tein Coilovers
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Sat, 22 October 2005 12:03
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I'm looking into lowering my GZ20 and reducing body role etc. Originally considering getting lowering springs i thought i would proberbly be better off at getting some coilovers. Importbitz has nice lookign Tein HD system coilovers that are reasonably priced and i was wondering what people thought of them.
Is it worth spending the extra $500 dollars on camber tops etc?
Also on another note. After seeing that TEIN also ofer an electronic dampner adjuster that is similar to TEMS, do you think it would be possible in machining some fittings to match the TEMS to the TEINs. Just an idea!
Thanks for your input!
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Location:
Newcastle
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May 2004
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Re: Tein Coilovers
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Sun, 23 October 2005 02:17
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What are u planning on useing the car for? circuit/drift/daily driver?
Personally if it was a daily driver, a set of lowered springs, stiffer than standard. I use Eibach springs in my gz20, alot lower and reduced body roll a fair bit, still very comfortable, but certinaly not what id want on the track.
If it is going to go on the track, go for some coilovers, once again if ur getting coilovers u might as well spend the extra on adjustable tops to allow you to setup the suspension as desired.
Personally i wouldnt fit TEMS to TEIN's even if its possible, the hard - soft setting on tems certinally wouldnt match tein's EDFC system.
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March 2005
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Re: Tein Coilovers
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Sun, 23 October 2005 02:25
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Daily driver! I was reading through the TEIN us site and they seemed so adjustable. They are hieght adjustable and the site lso noted that dampning rates could also be varied a great deal.
But then again that could just be market hype.
And with the TEMS, since it was there i thought it might work, but then again maybe it wont. It would just be much cheaper than spending $320 US on the EDFC and if it couldnt work i just wouldnt bother.
Any thanks for your input
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Location:
Adelaide
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November 2004
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Re: Tein Coilovers
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Mon, 24 October 2005 11:47
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Hey mate i think that the coilovers you are looking at on the import bitz site are not teins, if you are looking at the 1299 shocks they are a differant brand hsd. adjustable camber tops N/A for gz20 because they have double wishbone and adjustable camber only comes if you have adjustable top arms, which he has for 650.
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March 2005
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Re: Tein Coilovers
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Mon, 24 October 2005 11:54
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WHy did i think they were TEINS? My bad lol. So would you think these are just rip off look alikes. I mean they share the same serries and everything with TEIN etc.
Anyway, I'm new to suspensions. I understand dampning rates etc and spring rates. I understand that camber is the tilt the wheel makes with the ground etc. So why are camber tops nessecay as i would assume camber can be udjusted some how anyway as this would have to be done when you lower a car anyway.
Would someone point out what I can use on my soarer etc. As i said i really dont know how everything is adjustable etc and what to look out for when it comes to suspension.
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I Supported Toymods
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perth
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September 2002
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Re: Tein Coilovers
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Tue, 25 October 2005 13:33
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Hey dude, ive got TEIN HA coilovers on my ZE ae93 with 24 point adjustable dampening rate, and camber tops.
Coilovers are the best thing I have ever bought for my car, the increase in response and drivability is nothing short of enlightening..go for it!
--- camber ---
From my experience there are 2 main ways to go about it.
1. Camber bolts
2. Camber tops
Camber bolts are replacement bolts to the ones that attach the bottom of the suspension strut to your wheel hub. They have a lobe on them that when rotating the bolt, pushes the wheel hub toward/away from the strut allowing a limited ~2 degrees of camber adjustability.
Camber tops which come on many coilovers allow you to effectively grab the top of the suspension strut and slide it left or right to increase/decrease camber by large amounts. Its much easier to adjust as you don't have to take off wheel and fuck with high tension bolts. Be careful though because if you go crazy with negative camber (like i did when we first put coilovers in) the front wheel toe-in increases dramatically and you will shred your front tyres before you make it to the supension place for a wheel alignment 
--- spring rates ---
Coilovers on the second-hand market have quite varying spring rates and this choice is critical for getting the right balance for street driving. My corolla is ~1200Kg and i have 6kg/mm springs at front, 4kg/mm springs rear. This is already stupidly solid. Even with a heavier car like a soarer I would try to stay below 8kg/mm Front, 6kg/mm rear.
Hope that helps
-daniel-
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