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BAD LAG on my 1G with a T04S.. What do I do? Sat, 22 October 2005 13:40 Go to next message
Hi guys.. I know, i know, i've gone too big of a turbo..

The T04S has a rear housing of 0.84 which i have just relised is way too big to get any boost out of my 1G.

So, what do i do.. It's creating about 4 psi of boost at around 5000rpm atm.

The options that some people have mentioned so far.

1. Sell of this new turbo i've got and get one with a smaller rear housing.

or 2. Buy a standard 1G-GZE supercharger and run piping from that into the manifold until the turbo spools to full boost.

or buy an 80hp NOS Kit, and have fun with that... lol

Any help would be appreciated.

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Re: BAD LAG on my 1G with a T04S.. What do I do? Sat, 22 October 2005 14:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
when does the wategate start opening?
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Re: BAD LAG on my 1G with a T04S.. What do I do? Sat, 22 October 2005 16:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
How can i tell... I have my boost gauge screwed all the way out for maximum boost... When i drove it around the block, which is all i've done cause i haven't had a full dyno tune yet, at 5000rpm i was only on around 4psi. Still got the flutter from the wategate though.

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Re: BAD LAG on my 1G with a T04S.. What do I do? Sat, 22 October 2005 16:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
mcostalos wrote on Sun, 23 October 2005 02:12

How can i tell... I have my boost gauge screwed all the way out for maximum boost... When i drove it around the block, which is all i've done cause i haven't had a full dyno tune yet, at 5000rpm i was only on around 4psi. Still got the flutter from the wategate though.

Michael


i'm not sure i understand?
boost gauge screwed out?

you only make boost when you have the exhaust spinning the turbine
edit: and thus only make boost when you have pedal down to get air in.... if you are just tootling it won't boost..

what do you mean wastegate flutter??
wastegate opens to allow exhaust to bypass the turbine, so that you have higher exhaust flow for a given turbine speed...

i guess you could rig something up to see if the actuator has moved at all...

dodgy way would be to wire the wastegate closed, drive and see if it spools faster...

but unless you have been flooring it, would you really expect it to spool up?

[Updated on: Sat, 22 October 2005 16:51]

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Re: BAD LAG on my 1G with a T04S.. What do I do? Sat, 22 October 2005 21:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
5000rpm whats wrong with that Razz
thats when the fun starts Very Happy
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Re: BAD LAG on my 1G with a T04S.. What do I do? Sun, 23 October 2005 01:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
just a question. what size intercooler piping are you using?
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Re: BAD LAG on my 1G with a T04S.. What do I do? Sun, 23 October 2005 01:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Sorry guys, i meant Boost Controller... Wink

My piping is 2 1/4" I think.

Doesn't anyone like the dual charging idea?

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Re: BAD LAG on my 1G with a T04S.. What do I do? Sun, 23 October 2005 03:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
mcostalos wrote on Sun, 23 October 2005 11:55


Michael


of course...
search for the relatively recent twin charge threads...
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Re: BAD LAG on my 1G with a T04S.. What do I do? Sun, 23 October 2005 03:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
twin charge is cool Wink
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Re: BAD LAG on my 1G with a T04S.. What do I do? Sun, 23 October 2005 04:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Has anyone done it though, or will i be the first around here.. Oldcorolla, do you have a number i can call you on, cause i'm seriously thinking about doing this, and would love to chat about things.

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Re: BAD LAG on my 1G with a T04S.. What do I do? Sun, 23 October 2005 05:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
probably the first around here.

i am probably not th eperson to speak to abotu turbos tho Wink there are many talented turbo pp on here, but i am not one of them Razz

I'm also in japan, so phone call = difficult, but catch me on MSN
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Re: BAD LAG on my 1G with a T04S.. What do I do? Sun, 23 October 2005 09:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Sorry to hijack but can you run a TO4 setup on the stock computer and injectors Smile

But yeah id go with sourcing a different turbo or are u gunna drag it ?
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Re: BAD LAG on my 1G with a T04S.. What do I do? Sun, 23 October 2005 09:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Yeah it's going to be mainly used for drags...

Yeah you can, but don't expect it to run well, cause you'll have fuel problems and the computer won't like it. get 7M injecters and a piggy back, or go all out like me and geta full EMS.

Btw, does anybody know what PSI the Standard 1G-GZE SC puts out max?

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Re: BAD LAG on my 1G with a T04S.. What do I do? Sun, 23 October 2005 09:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Yeah it's going to be mainly used for drags...



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Re: BAD LAG on my 1G with a T04S.. What do I do? Mon, 24 October 2005 03:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
go the nitrous mike!

have a blast!
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Re: BAD LAG on my 1G with a T04S.. What do I do? Mon, 24 October 2005 03:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Hey mike,

Twincharge, too hard basket.

Firstly, Check to see it's not leaking boost.. could be something simple like that. Check all inlet pluming for leaks.

If thats all good, Take the turbo off and take it down to A.T.S and see if he can match you a good sized exhaust housing.. im thinking a 0.64 might be a little better if you wanna spool earlier.

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Re: BAD LAG on my 1G with a T04S.. What do I do? Mon, 24 October 2005 03:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Still got the flutter from the wategate though.



Wastegates don't "flutter". A wastegate simply allows exhaust gas to bypass the exhaust turbine.

The flutter is compressor surge, if it is doing this on accelleration or held boost then you do not have an optimal setup.

Compressor surge when you snap the throttle closed means you BOV (if you have one fitted) is not opening or not opening quickly enough. Many of the "sick" BOVs have spring tension that is too high and there for need massive boost/vaccuum situations to open.

Have you got any more details about your turbo other that it's exhaust housing size and that it is a TO4S?

EMP-2TG what are your turbo specs? You should be able to point this fellow in the right direction for a good drag setup.

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Re: BAD LAG on my 1G with a T04S.. What do I do? Mon, 24 October 2005 04:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
well i think 5000rpm is fine for a drag setup Wink
mine comes on full boost then, but builds boost slowly from 3000rpm to about 4psi then once it hits about 4500 will spin that extra 20psi in those 500odd rpm to 5000rpm, makes it alot of fun to drive
can still putt around off boost and get good fuel economy, but once your into it damn hang on Razz
i can drive around all week and never hear the bov which is kinda cool...

what power did u make in the end Michael? and at what boost?

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Re: BAD LAG on my 1G with a T04S.. What do I do? Mon, 24 October 2005 04:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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everyone go buy the latest issue of zoom thats hits shelves later on this week



Certainly will be Very Happy

Did you get your mug in any of the pics?
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Re: BAD LAG on my 1G with a T04S.. What do I do? Mon, 24 October 2005 04:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
kinda maybe
might be one fat barstard driving pic in there Razz
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Re: BAD LAG on my 1G with a T04S.. What do I do? Mon, 24 October 2005 04:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
It will be at 4's and more next monday to get a full tune and to see what the power output is. I haven't wanted to take it past 5000rpm atm on the base tune that it's had.

I will keep you all informed on what happens.

NOS would be nice.. Bit too crazy for the street. Fairly expensive these days as well.

About to call Adelaide Turbo Services now.

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Re: BAD LAG on my 1G with a T04S.. What do I do? Mon, 24 October 2005 06:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Sorry to hijack but can you run a TO4 setup on the stock computer and injectors

Yeah you can, but don't expect it to run well, cause you'll have fuel problems and the computer won't like it. get 7M injecters and a piggy back, or go all out like me and geta full EMS.




I like that one people giving advise that have no fucking idea Cool
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Re: BAD LAG on my 1G with a T04S.. What do I do? Mon, 24 October 2005 06:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Fuck you dcving... I don't see you putting in any input.

Michael

[Updated on: Mon, 24 October 2005 06:28]

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Re: BAD LAG on my 1G with a T04S.. What do I do? Mon, 24 October 2005 06:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
why say that when you obvioisly dont know what your talking about.

if you going to someone advise have something to back it up.
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Re: BAD LAG on my 1G with a T04S.. What do I do? Mon, 24 October 2005 06:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
mcostalos I just noticed your choice of diff ratio and gear box. What size tyres are you going to run on the track? A friend of mine had the same gear box and diff ratio and it ran out of legs pretty quickly with 195/50R15 tyres.

Might be an issue bringing the big laggy turbo onto boost in first too if the gearing is too short.


EDIT: just read your whole sig and saw the 17" wheels. Have you run your diff/gear box ratios and tyre size through a calculator to see what rpm will produce what speed on the road? You might find that you are needing to shift 5th on the 1/4 mile with that setup????

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Re: BAD LAG on my 1G with a T04S.. What do I do? Mon, 24 October 2005 06:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
I'm running 235/45/17's on the street.

On the track, 245/60/17 slicks.

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Re: BAD LAG on my 1G with a T04S.. What do I do? Mon, 24 October 2005 06:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On the track, 245/60/17 slicks.



Sounds like you have it sorted then Wink Just ignore my post Smile
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Re: BAD LAG on my 1G with a T04S.. What do I do? Mon, 24 October 2005 06:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
All good, thanks for the input!

All the positive contributions are greatly appreciated!

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Re: BAD LAG on my 1G with a T04S.. What do I do? Mon, 24 October 2005 06:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
i got 4.3's the the rolla and need to be in 5th well b4 i cross the line (195/50/15)
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Re: BAD LAG on my 1G with a T04S.. What do I do? Mon, 24 October 2005 07:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
A) A T04 can be run with stock computer and injectors, you'll just have to make adjustments to make sure that you don't add too much boost and end up maxing things out.. 11 psi is still 11psi no matter what turbo made it.

B) When I first got my car together, it made STUFF ALL boost till 5500 rpm.. Quite seriously, it was really really bad.. A tune helped that. Also, with a 0.84 exhaust housing, mine was laggy too.. Change that to the 0.62(orwhatever it is) and this does make a difference. I've done it myself.

I've got 2.5" intercooler piping, was going to go three inch, but decided not to, probably a good idea. It's still got nothing below 4000rpm, but boost does build then, and believe me, when it comes on, GOD DAMN does it come on...
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Re: BAD LAG on my 1G with a T04S.. What do I do? Mon, 24 October 2005 08:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Thanks stradlater.

How much did you pay to change the housing?

Below is a chart for my gear ratio setup with the slicks on. It's in mph. 126mph is what i will max out in 4th. Hopefully by running a high 11, i shouldn't have to change into fifth with a mph like that. Should be right on the money.

Michael

RPM 1st Gear 2nd Gear 3rd Gear 4th Gear 5th Gear 6th Gear
500 3 5 7 9 10
600 3 6 8 10 12
700 4 6 10 12 14
800 4 7 11 14 16
900 5 8 12 16 18
1000 5 9 14 17 20
1100 6 10 15 19 22
1200 6 11 16 21 24
1300 7 12 18 23 26
1400 7 13 19 24 28
1500 8 14 20 26 30
1600 8 15 22 28 32
1700 9 16 23 30 34
1800 10 17 25 31 36
1900 10 18 26 33 39
2000 11 18 27 35 41
2100 11 19 29 37 43
2200 12 20 30 38 45
2300 12 21 31 40 47
2400 13 22 33 42 49
2500 13 23 34 44 51
2600 14 24 35 45 53
2700 14 25 37 47 55
2800 15 26 38 49 57
2900 15 27 40 51 59
3000 16 28 41 52 61
3100 16 29 42 54 63
3200 17 30 44 56 65
3300 17 30 45 58 67
3400 18 31 46 59 69
3500 19 32 48 61 71
3600 19 33 49 63 73
3700 20 34 50 65 75
3800 20 35 52 66 77
3900 21 36 53 68 79
4000 21 37 54 70 81
4100 22 38 56 71 83
4200 22 39 57 73 85
4300 23 40 59 75 87
4400 23 41 60 77 89
4500 24 42 61 78 91
4600 24 42 63 80 93
4700 25 43 64 82 95
4800 25 44 65 84 97
4900 26 45 67 85 99
5000 27 46 68 87 101
5100 27 47 69 89 103
5200 28 48 71 91 105
5300 28 49 72 92 107
5400 29 50 74 94 109
5500 29 51 75 96 112
5600 30 52 76 98 114
5700 30 53 78 99 116
5800 31 54 79 101 118
5900 31 54 80 103 120
6000 32 55 82 105 122
6100 32 56 83 106 124
6200 33 57 84 108 126
6300 33 58 86 110 128
6400 34 59 87 112 130
6500 34 60 89 113 132
6600 35 61 90 115 134
6700 36 62 91 117 136
6800 36 63 93 119 138
6900 37 64 94 120 140
7000 37 65 95 122 142
7100 38 66 97 124 144
7200 38 66 98 126 146
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Re: BAD LAG on my 1G with a T04S.. What do I do? Tue, 25 October 2005 01:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
It cost me something like $100 to change over my exhaust housing, but the guy I bought it off was pretty friendly and helpful about it all, so he did it for me pretty cheap.
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Re: BAD LAG on my 1G with a T04S.. What do I do? Tue, 25 October 2005 03:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
dcving wrote on Mon, 24 October 2005 16:21

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Sorry to hijack but can you run a TO4 setup on the stock computer and injectors


Quote:

Yeah you can, but don't expect it to run well, cause you'll have fuel problems and the computer won't like it. get 7M injecters and a piggy back, or go all out like me and geta full EMS.


I like that one people giving advise that have no fucking idea Cool


You dcving, are not the kind of person people like to see in the Toymods forums. Everyone is here to help eachother, even a little bit of advice is always good. Also I can't see anything wrong with mcostalos's answer and it is mostly backed up by stradlater's advice.

stradlater wrote on Mon, 24 October 2005 17:09

A) A T04 can be run with stock computer and injectors, you'll just have to make adjustments to make sure that you don't add too much boost and end up maxing things out.. 11 psi is still 11psi no matter what turbo made it.


Stradlater knows what he's talking about.. I've seen his beast of a car run Smile.

Anyway good luck with fixing the problem mcostalos, sorry I can't help but i needed to reassure everyone that dcving was a fucktard Smile

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Re: BAD LAG on my 1G with a T04S.. What do I do? Tue, 25 October 2005 05:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Phrostbyte wrote on Tue, 25 October 2005 13:38


Stradlater knows what he's talking about.. I've seen his beast of a car run Smile.





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Re: BAD LAG on my 1G with a T04S.. What do I do? Tue, 25 October 2005 06:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
hey strad, what boost were u running when u ran 108mph?
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Re: BAD LAG on my 1G with a T04S.. What do I do? Tue, 25 October 2005 06:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Something in between I dunno, and I've got no idea....

Didn't have a boost gauge. Was guessing something like 18psi to 20psi, but to be frank, I really have no idea
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Re: BAD LAG on my 1G with a T04S.. What do I do? Tue, 25 October 2005 06:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
stradlater wrote on Tue, 25 October 2005 16:18

Something in between I dunno, and I've got no idea....

Didn't have a boost gauge. Was guessing something like 18psi to 20psi, but to be frank, I really have no idea



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Re: BAD LAG on my 1G with a T04S.. What do I do? Tue, 25 October 2005 06:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
oldcorollas wrote on Tue, 25 October 2005 16:26

stradlater wrote on Tue, 25 October 2005 16:18

Something in between I dunno, and I've got no idea....

Didn't have a boost gauge. Was guessing something like 18psi to 20psi, but to be frank, I really have no idea



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Re: BAD LAG on my 1G with a T04S.. What do I do? Tue, 25 October 2005 06:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
haha just trying to work it all out thanks
i ran 112mph on 15ish, but in also not sure on the boost, that was 8500rpm in 4th tho
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Re: BAD LAG on my 1G with a T04S.. What do I do? Tue, 25 October 2005 06:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
8500RPM on a 1g?? I wouldn't do that too often..
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Re: BAD LAG on my 1G with a T04S.. What do I do? Tue, 25 October 2005 07:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
it will get over it im sure:evil:
rev limit is back down to 8000rpm now
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Re: BAD LAG on my 1G with a T04S.. What do I do? Tue, 25 October 2005 10:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
It might get over it, but your bonnet may not get over the holes you've put in it.
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Re: BAD LAG on my 1G with a T04S.. What do I do? Tue, 25 October 2005 10:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
alright.....

Sorry guys, dcving is 100% right.

to4e on a factory comp. injectors and airflow meter will run fine.
not only that it will run quite well.
i am running this set up now on mine, and have for a while.
i run 16psi no probs, and make full boost by bout 4000rpm.

As for all you gurus that know all, and have huge power.....
my car with factory comp. etc (which will run shit) ran 12.5 sec at 110.9mph.

im not sayin this is the best set up, but it does seem to work alot better than others out there. mind you i have an autronic in the garage waiting to be fitted in the search for more power.

There are alot of people that frequent this website that feel they know all simply because they dont think it will work.

So i throw out the challenge to all the experts that said factory computer etc is shit.... how many of you tried it? or did you just assume it wouldnt work?

The reason for dcving's comments was not to be close minded, but because he has been part of my build the whole way along, and unlike most you punters.... he actually KNOWS it can work.


ok.... now for the original question..... i believe your best option is to properly size your turbo to suit what you want to do. Josh's turbo is making great power(top work by the way mate), at the sacrifice of high rpm, which is great for what he wants to do, and in a light car not as big an issue.
but go too big, and you get a turbo that wont boost properly, remember, bigger power doesnt always mean faster times.

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Re: BAD LAG on my 1G with a T04S.. What do I do? Tue, 25 October 2005 12:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
So toy 77 do u have a to4e or to4s on ur motor?
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Re: BAD LAG on my 1G with a T04S.. What do I do? Tue, 25 October 2005 15:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Firstly i'm curious on the 8000rpm redline.. 8500 at one stage... you've had no throw backs so far?

Also curious on the turbo you are running as well TOY77.

What's the best time around here anyone has run with a single turbo setup on their 1G? Are the mid 11's realistic with slicks and my setup?

Thanks,
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Re: BAD LAG on my 1G with a T04S.. What do I do? Tue, 25 October 2005 17:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
nope only issue ive ever had are clutches and traction
btw mines just an old gen 1 thats never been opened
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Re: BAD LAG on my 1G with a T04S.. What do I do? Tue, 25 October 2005 19:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
i have a to4e. hks cast manifold, hks wastegate.

the turbo, has a .64 i think rear housing and .50 front cover.

as for the guts of it, we have changed the wheels a few times.a mate ha an old to4 off a v8 with a 1.06 rear and .60 front... we put that turbo, into my rear housing. then it boosted earlier, but not the same top end. so we took its front wheel of and put the .5 front on that turbo. we had to grind the front of the wheel down slightly to get it to go on.

so the turbo i am runnin is a bitsa, it is unbalanced, and it runs great.

as for times....
mine best is 12.5 @ 110.9mph
dcving ran 12.4 @106ish

i do not think 11's are possible with 200rwkw but hey, give it a go. i have seen cars at the drags run 10's at 110mph (not backing off) so although there are guidelines, get out there and have a go, find the areas that need development, and work on it.

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Re: BAD LAG on my 1G with a T04S.. What do I do? Tue, 25 October 2005 23:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
phrostbyte,

ok, i may have been a bit harsh in my comments just dont like to see people getting missguided imformation, i know ive had plenty in my time, if you cant give someone good quality advise on here dont give advise.

there are a fair few people on here now with modified 1gs, and just about all of the setups are different in one way or another, from what i understand stradlaters car (please take no offence at this) is pretty well modified apart from opening the engine. he has run a 12.6 or watever making just over 200kw (please correct me if im wrong) my car is in the same boat running a 12.4 or watever making just over 200kw. my car is pretty much as modified as it can be other than opening up the engine. but on the other hand you have toy 77 making the same power, running the same times pretty much as strad and me and he has standard everything, everthing down to computer, afm, injectors ect, so theres the proof that it does work and works fucking well, so why spend all your money on all these mods to get the same result if you dont have too? on the other hand aswell you have emp-2tg, making really good numbers with his with no real special tricks just done every thing right, and done it well and on an unopened 1g, congrats josh, im onto my third 1gwith no where near the kind of power josh is making, there are a few others around making really good numbers on there standard motors, i cant keep them together, so its know time to build a motor, with hopefully fixing the problem of why the motors were blowing up in the first place Smile
ive had the 1g in my celica for about 8 years now, and have been playing around with the single turbo conversion for about 2 and a half years now also, so pretty much no them inside out also Wink


oh and as for diff ratios, im running 4.3, and was well into 5th gear crossing the line on my 12.4 sec pass, though i was running smaller tyres than wat your intending to run, but 4.8 is bloody short, youll need big tyres and a shitload of horsepower to run 126mph.


sorry for the rant just clearing myself up Razz

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Re: BAD LAG on my 1G with a T04S.. What do I do? Tue, 25 October 2005 23:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
I don't have a 1g or a celica but on the topic of diff ratios I currently have a 4.875:1 and was running 25.5" tyres (225/60 15's) and I had to change into overdrive about 50-75m before the end of the 1/4. So maxing out 3rd being the 1:1 ratio so if you had the same size tyres as me, you would have to change into fifth at that time. That is revving it to 7300rpm.
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Re: BAD LAG on my 1G with a T04S.. What do I do? Tue, 25 October 2005 23:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
well if you want more fuel for top end if you end up wanting bigger injectors do this VVV thats if the standard ecu will allow it.

what about adding a 5th injector to the system so it has fuel at high end. rather than running the car rich all the time with massive injectors.

my brother is currently doing the 5th injector to his tx5, and is running a volvo injetor just before the inlet pipe.


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Re: BAD LAG on my 1G with a T04S.. What do I do? Wed, 26 October 2005 01:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Cool guys. Were these 12 second times on slicks, and with an LSD rear end?

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Re: BAD LAG on my 1G with a T04S.. What do I do? Wed, 26 October 2005 01:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
I haven't wound my setup out enough to get the proper times out of it. I'm gonna be pushing it pretty hard soon, because up until now, it's been pretty much a guessing game..
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Re: BAD LAG on my 1G with a T04S.. What do I do? Wed, 26 October 2005 04:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
stradlater wrote on Mon, 24 October 2005 17:09

A) A T04 can be run with stock computer and injectors, you'll just have to make adjustments to make sure that you don't add too much boost and end up maxing things out.. 11 psi is still 11psi no matter what turbo made it.



zactly, so when do stock injectors max out?
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Re: BAD LAG on my 1G with a T04S.. What do I do? Wed, 26 October 2005 04:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
oldcorollas wrote on Wed, 26 October 2005 14:08

stradlater wrote on Mon, 24 October 2005 17:09

A) A T04 can be run with stock computer and injectors, you'll just have to make adjustments to make sure that you don't add too much boost and end up maxing things out.. 11 psi is still 11psi no matter what turbo made it.



zactly, so when do stock injectors max out?



Somewhere in between I dunno - I've no idea - and - I don't care

Never touched an injector in my life. There's no maxing out in my fuel system.
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Re: BAD LAG on my 1G with a T04S.. What do I do? Wed, 26 October 2005 08:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
heya,

i reckon your gunna have to run very tall tyres for 126mph in fourth with that ratio.

i have 3.9 diff gears and ran the same 22in tyres dcving was running and i was still in fourth. but i would be running taller tyres next time i head down to increase my gearing.

as for the times, yup on slicks, but as mentioned they were very small, so you dont get the same kinda launch as on a taller sidewall slick, but they hook up very well, probly comparable to a good dot approved drag tyre.
i have a locker in the rear end of my car (volvo diff) and steve has a hilux diff with an lsd. mind you slicks dont generally improve mph on the 1/4, if anything cars run a little less mph on slicks. so although you get a slower time on streets, the mph is comparable, and when compared to cars weight, a very good way of telling how much power a car is making.

as for the injectors, i think a guy on here made bout 230kw at the wheels at a toymods dyno day with factory injectors. i don't know what duty cycle i am running, but my air fuels were very rich top end so i just went with it.

Again i emphasise, i am not sayin factory stuff is the best option, but that it IS an option. As well as that of all the modded 1g's i have seen, mine definately runs the best in terms of cold start, idle etc.

hey Josh, what time did you run down the 1/4?

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Re: BAD LAG on my 1G with a T04S.. What do I do? Wed, 26 October 2005 08:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Took the adjustable boost gauge out today and ran the line directly back into the wastegate...

At 5500 rpm i got 10psi in 3rd gear.. Looking better...

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Re: BAD LAG on my 1G with a T04S.. What do I do? Wed, 26 October 2005 13:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
TOY77 wrote on Wed, 26 October 2005 18:12


hey Josh, what time did you run down the 1/4?



14.2@112mph
2nd pass ever of really old street tires (195/50/15) then the clutch broke
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Re: BAD LAG on my 1G with a T04S.. What do I do? Thu, 27 October 2005 03:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Dude, no dis-respect, but why on earth are you doing ANYTHING with a celica if you already have a Z4? I sure as hell wouldn't be.
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Re: BAD LAG on my 1G with a T04S.. What do I do? Thu, 27 October 2005 03:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
stradlater wrote on Thu, 27 October 2005 13:26

Dude, no dis-respect, but why on earth are you doing ANYTHING with a celica if you already have a Z4? I sure as hell wouldn't be.


Because he can Wink
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Re: BAD LAG on my 1G with a T04S.. What do I do? Thu, 27 October 2005 03:34 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
Thanks Corona... You got to love old school as well!

will take the Z4 out for the hills and track, and the Celica for the drags n weekend fun...

Use the Z4 for hot summer days and rainy days...
and the Celica for anything in between...

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