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Fuel Catalyst - Worth it?
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Sun, 23 October 2005 17:49
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Hello
I stumbled over this product and I am curious to know if anyone here has tried it and did it have any worth while gains. It apparently increase performance, reduces fuel consumption and lowers emissions.
http://www.hicloneqld.com/fuelstar.htm
Check it out
it releases bits of tin in the fuel...
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Re: Fuel Catalyst - Worth it?
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Sun, 23 October 2005 18:00
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| ToyRollaAE86 wrote on Mon, 24 October 2005 03:49 |
Hello
I stumbled over this product and I am curious to know if anyone here has tried it and did it have any worth while gains. It apparently increase performance, reduces fuel consumption and lowers emissions.
http://www.hicloneqld.com/fuelstar.htm
Check it out
it releases bits of tin in the fuel...
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stumbled is the word...
it's bullshit.
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At the exit end the treated fuel passes by powerful magnets, which assist in fracturing fuel hydrocarbon clusters through magnetic resonance
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into what? hexane? butane? gases?
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Re: Fuel Catalyst - Worth it?
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Sun, 23 October 2005 18:12
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"Fuelstar provides a money back guarantee that its product will result in fuel savings of 7% and more for all engines to which the product is installed. The Fuelstar canister is easy to fit and will usually outlive the engine."
cool
http://www.btpperformance.com/fuelstar.htm
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Re: Fuel Catalyst - Worth it?
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Sun, 23 October 2005 18:25
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| terra wrote on Mon, 24 October 2005 04:03 |
there is nothing about magnets in the official fuelstar writeup.
all it is, is small cones of tin that fuel filters through -- thats it, nothing more, nothing less.
i have seen it working on ONE diesel van though... it totally removed the black smoke and made it sounded a lot healthier, no idea if it was any faster. havent seen it on anything else.
edit: fuelstar have applications for 500cc bikes (like 4 cones of tin) to big industrial engines (canisters with 20,000-40,000 cones of tin
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there is actually almost nothing on the fuelstar site that actually scientifically describes what it does,
money back guarantee? heh heh, only if it was installed properly
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How does it work?
The tin cones are at the entry end of the Fuelstar canister after a swirl plate. The cones are arranged loose with abrasive perforated separator plates between the rows. The numbers of cones in each model are matched to the size of the engine Fuelstar is to be fitted to, and the amount of fuel needed to be treated. At the exit end the treated fuel passes by powerful magnets, which assist in fracturing fuel hydrocarbon clusters through magnetic resonance (see the fuelmax page for more information). The Fuelstar process is activated by vibration which produces a rubbing action between the tin alloy cones and the seperator plates which releases very fine particles of tin (0.2 - 0.5 of a micron) into the fuel. These particles repel each other and the movement keeps them in colloidal suspension in the fuel. The tin alloy produces a catalytic reaction on the fuel during combustion at which time it is converted to a tin oxide. This reaction results in a more complete and cleaner combustion. The tin oxide formed helps clear carbon build up and coats the exhaust valve mating surfaces to alleviate valve seat recession.
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There is a lot of information on the Web about Tin Catalyst Fuel Enhancement.
It appears as the classic case of:
REALITY - these products have been successfully sold for many years, with money back guarantees. There are thousands of satisfied consumers and no doubt some consumers it did not work for (you are not going to please all the people all the time) BUT if it didn't work in most cases, these companies would soon be out of business and well and truly sued.
THE LABORATORY - often can't replicate whats happening in real life.
As with all these 'Alternate' ideas science can often prove otherwise. According to science butterflies can't fly and it was only 400 years ago you were burnt at the stake for saying the earth rotated around the sun and 100 years ago you were locked up for saying pictures would fly through the air and end up in boxes in the lounge room.
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ahh thats what i like to hear.. conspiracy theories
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Re: Fuel Catalyst - Worth it?
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Sun, 23 October 2005 18:40
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i could probably scan in some (theres probably about 50 of em) of the dyno sheets in the fuelstar retailer/wholesaler handout if ya wanted to. therye all australian results too.
will try to get a hold of the folder tonight.
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Re: Fuel Catalyst - Worth it?
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Sun, 23 October 2005 22:22
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they are 100% bullshit and dont work!funny how they all do chassis dyno not engine dyno.they all are conmen,if anyone ever gets the chance to sell them anything ripe them of hard.if i had my way and i wouldnt get charged id,shove them all were the sun dont shine to the bloke that owns the company.
mick
p.s anyone trying to say they work is going to get flamed big time
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Re: Fuel Catalyst - Worth it?
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Sun, 23 October 2005 23:06
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| kingmick wrote on Mon, 24 October 2005 08:22 |
p.s anyone trying to say they work is going to get flamed big time
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They work! Now prove they dont!
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Re: Fuel Catalyst - Worth it?
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Sun, 23 October 2005 23:18
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lol ill prove it to anyone that has a car worth over $50k.ill pull the motor and we can put it on the engine dyno.when i have shown they dont work i get to keep the car!
we would use them in edurance racing if they worked now wouldnt we.a few extra laps on the same tank of fuel would give any race team the edge!lmfao.i can just picture it,skaife comes in for a fuel stop and murphy dosnt have to because his supercar is fitted with a fuelstar. 
or Michael Schumacher just gone a lap ahead because he didnt have to pit because he has a fuelstar fitted.
imagine how much futher a 747 could go with fuelstar if only it work on AVTUR.
pmsl
mick
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Re: Fuel Catalyst - Worth it?
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Sun, 23 October 2005 23:30
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How come I didn't get flamed? 
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Sun, 23 October 2005 23:43
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you did,but my new style of interlectual flaming passed under your radar. you dont have a car worth $50k
mick
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Sun, 23 October 2005 23:58
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Someone needs to put a fuelstar, hiclone and turbozet on the same car at the same time and see what happens. I reckon the tank will start to fill itself as you drive.
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Re: Fuel Catalyst - Worth it?
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Mon, 24 October 2005 00:08
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| Norbie wrote on Mon, 24 October 2005 09:58 |
Someone needs to put a fuelstar, hiclone and turbozet on the same car at the same time and see what happens. I reckon the tank will start to fill itself as you drive.
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thats gold
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Mon, 24 October 2005 00:23
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| kingmick wrote on Mon, 24 October 2005 09:43 |
you dont have a car worth $50k
mick
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Neither do you!
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Mon, 24 October 2005 00:29
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oh yes i do!my boats worth over that aswell.
mick
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Re: Fuel Catalyst - Worth it?
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Mon, 24 October 2005 00:30
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Dont believe you.
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Mon, 24 October 2005 00:36
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lol care factor!wish the tax office thought like you,make my life cheaper.
mick
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Re: Fuel Catalyst - Worth it?
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Mon, 24 October 2005 00:39
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I guess if we are talking leased cars/boats or even workshop owned, I could class our work shop cars as mine. A handfull of cobras(shit one of them is real!), a daytona and a GT40 all of which are worth well over 50k. So yeah, I do have a car worth over 50k.
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Re: Fuel Catalyst - Worth it?
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Mon, 24 October 2005 00:44
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| ToyRollaAE86 wrote on Mon, 24 October 2005 03:19 |
Hello
I stumbled over this product and I am curious to know if anyone here has tried it and did it have any worth while gains. It apparently increase performance, reduces fuel consumption and lowers emissions.
http://www.hicloneqld.com/fuelstar.htm
Check it out
it releases bits of tin in the fuel...
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I have some magic beans that I'd like to sell you....
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Re: Fuel Catalyst - Worth it?
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Mon, 24 October 2005 00:45
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| lumpy wrote on Mon, 24 October 2005 10:44 |
I have some magic beans that I'd like to sell you....
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How much?
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Re: Fuel Catalyst - Worth it?
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Mon, 24 October 2005 00:46
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god dont lease.leasing is for people that juggle money.i dont lease and dont count workshop cars as mine!lmao but thats all im saying on that particular subject!for obvious reasons.
mick
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Re: Fuel Catalyst - Worth it?
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Mon, 24 October 2005 02:21
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| Cool1 wrote on Mon, 24 October 2005 10:15 |
| lumpy wrote on Mon, 24 October 2005 10:44 |
I have some magic beans that I'd like to sell you....
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How much?
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I'm sorry cool1, if you don't have a $50,000 car then you can't afford my magic beans
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Re: Fuel Catalyst - Worth it?
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Mon, 24 October 2005 02:23
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no but he can lease them! and that was a joke!
mick
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Re: Fuel Catalyst - Worth it?
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Mon, 24 October 2005 02:23
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| lumpy wrote on Mon, 24 October 2005 12:21 |
| Cool1 wrote on Mon, 24 October 2005 10:15 |
| lumpy wrote on Mon, 24 October 2005 10:44 |
I have some magic beans that I'd like to sell you....
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How much?
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I'm sorry cool1, if you don't have a $50,000 car then you can't afford my magic beans
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Can I lease them?
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Re: Fuel Catalyst - Worth it?
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Mon, 24 October 2005 02:29
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god feels like someone looking over my shoulder as i type!
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