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who has this setup? (GZE+big port cams)
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Tue, 25 October 2005 03:24
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Just wondering if anyone has this setup at the moment?
ive been searching and there isnt that much info on this..
some people have done this but i just wanted to hear first hand what differences and is it really worth while?
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Toronto, Downtown
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September 2004
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Re: who has this setup? (GZE+big port cams)
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Tue, 25 October 2005 05:38
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u mean gze bigport with n/a bigport cams or smallport gze with bigport n/a or gze cams???
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sydney
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March 2003
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Re: who has this setup? (GZE+big port cams)
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Tue, 25 October 2005 05:41
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sorry mate i should of specified.
ae101 smallport GZE with bigport 4age cams
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Rosanna, Melb
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June 2002
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Re: who has this setup? (GZE+big port cams)
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Tue, 25 October 2005 06:32
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Afraid I have no direct experience with this swap, but an experienced 4A engine builder I spoke to thought that the improvement wouldn't warrant the effort.
Also bear in mind that cams are identical between GE and GZE.
In other words:
bigport ZE cams = bigport GE cams
smallport ZE cams = smallport GE cams
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sydney
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March 2003
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Re: who has this setup? (GZE+big port cams)
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Tue, 25 October 2005 06:39
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apparently the
smallport gze has 232 degree cams with 7.1 mm lift cams while the bigport 4AGE has 240 degrees cams with 7.56mm lift.
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Kita-Ku, Sapporo, Japan
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January 2003
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Re: who has this setup? (GZE+big port cams)
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Tue, 25 October 2005 07:04
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not really worth setting up shims for really...
if you want cams, why not go 256, or 264 etc?
rather than... yayy, may car is fractionally better than stock 
anyone got 50thou measurements of the stock cams?
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sydney
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March 2003
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Location:
Kita-Ku, Sapporo, Japan
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January 2003
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Re: who has this setup? (GZE+big port cams)
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Tue, 25 October 2005 07:16
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ahh, well if you have them and it's a choice for the heck of it.. why not
yes, you will need to checkc each shim individually.. depends on cam and head and valve height etc...
so just as much pain to do it for any cam..
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sydney
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March 2003
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Re: who has this setup? (GZE+big port cams)
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Tue, 25 October 2005 07:20
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If anyone else has an opinion on this please let me know..
besides that thanks everyone...
I'm going to do it next weekend so i'll let everyone know exactly how it is...
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Perth
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May 2005
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Re: who has this setup? (GZE+big port cams)
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Tue, 25 October 2005 07:42
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speak to rhys about this. he did this setup on the AE93 Rolla with NEVO pulleys.
hsvmaloo_r8@hotmail.com
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sydney
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March 2003
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Re: who has this setup? (GZE+big port cams)
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Tue, 25 October 2005 07:46
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thanks for that..I'll e-mail him..
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sydney
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March 2003
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Re: who has this setup? (GZE+big port cams)
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Tue, 25 October 2005 07:50
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guys i just did some more searching and apparently the big port cams timing are set differently.
does anyone know what they mean by timed differently
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July 2005
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Re: who has this setup? (GZE+big port cams)
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Tue, 25 October 2005 08:09
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| oldcorollas wrote on Tue, 25 October 2005 17:16 |
ahh, well if you have them and it's a choice for the heck of it.. why not
yes, you will need to checkc each shim individually.. depends on cam and head and valve height etc...
so just as much pain to do it for any cam..
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if u can get hold of the big port cams CHEAP and u can do the work why not?alot of kiwi boys with map gzes has the bluetop cams with their 4agte has it.
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I Supported Toymods
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perth
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September 2002
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Re: who has this setup? (GZE+big port cams)
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Tue, 25 October 2005 14:19
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Hey dude, im in the same position as you. Ive got robowashed 88kw small port cams read to go into my ae101ze but im just not exactly sure how to measure clearances, and what to do if they need changing.
I know 2 guys who have done it and swear it made better midrange power and made the engine noticably more rev happy.
One who recently did this had the 88kw head right there, so he simply switched out all the ze shims with the 88kw shims and said it worked great. Unfortunately i don't have that luxury so just waiting for info on clearances.
keep us posted 
-daniel-
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Melbourne
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May 2002
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Re: who has this setup? (GZE+big port cams)
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Tue, 25 October 2005 16:45
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You have nothing to lose, and not much to gain. If you have the time, and the know how, I'd say it's a learning experience. But like oldcorollaguy says, you need to the clearances. Most 4A's i've heard are probably overdue for some checking in the clearance department.
Another thing, the cams aren't ruled by port sizings. Just because you have a bigport head, doesn't mean you have the longer duration cams. I'd call them early and late, 1987 august appears to be the cutoff date. This is according to the EPC I downloaded off the internet.
I say give it a go, then tell everyone what you did or didn't gain.
dan of dodgy
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sydney
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March 2003
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Re: who has this setup? (GZE+big port cams)
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Tue, 25 October 2005 23:44
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Will do...
Once its done i'll let u all know how it goes!
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Banned by his request
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moved to tamworth
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July 2002
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Re: who has this setup? (GZE+big port cams)
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Wed, 26 October 2005 10:58
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if its atmo engine use the smallport head,you can use the bigport cams but you will not notice the diffrence.you will be far happier if you have a limited budget with the smallport head.
mick
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Bundaberg, Qld.
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May 2002
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Re: who has this setup? (GZE+big port cams)
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Sun, 30 October 2005 12:03
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| DacBietAE86 wrote on Tue, 25 October 2005 16:39 |
apparently the
smallport gze has 232 degree cams with 7.1 mm lift cams while the bigport 4AGE has 240 degrees cams with 7.56mm lift.
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depends on what 4age bigport it is. only the early bigport 4age with 'blue and black' writing on the inlet cam cover have the higher lift cams. the later bigport 4age has the same cams as a 4agze.
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