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Re: RA23 BRAKE UPGRADE
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Mon, 13 January 2003 01:27
 
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you should be able to get a set of two RT132 corona struts for $100-$150 all up, any more and i feel that your getting ripped off. also inspect the strut for any damage, the car could have been in an acco and u dont want to buy bent struts/stub axles.
It all depends on how far u want to go with the upgrade:
heres a list from cheapest to most expensive
1. bolt in the existing RT132 srtut, twin piston and 10.5" solid disc. make sure you rebuild the caliper and if u can afford it buy new discs or machine existing ones **BE SURE TO MEASURE DISC WIDTH**
2. buy a set of vented peugeot discs, bolt them on and still retain the corona twin piston caliper (fit these via a spacer as the sumitomo caliper is a 2 part caliper)
3. go the whole hog with peugeot vented disc and hilux 4 piston caliper, read the tech article in the articles section of the toymods website.
cant think of much more to say..
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Canberra
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Re: RA23 BRAKE UPGRADE
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Mon, 13 January 2003 01:58
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Thanks Rob,
Last question do the strut tops fit up in the towers withouh hassel or do u have to modify?
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Brisbane
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May 2002
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Re: RA23 BRAKE UPGRADE
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Mon, 13 January 2003 03:00
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If you have basic metal working skills (or know someone who has), you can avoid replacing the strut. I have Supra brakes on my original RA23 struts, and it works extremely well. All that's required is a simple bracket to mount the calipers on the strut. More details here:
http://www.norbie.net/BrakeMods.htm
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c'town, NSW
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Re: RA23 BRAKE UPGRADE
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Mon, 13 January 2003 05:16
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i have sourced two complete struts for $88 each they are xt130's though i shouldnt have to much trouble with any metal work i just wanted to get my car on the road fairly quick with little hassel but i wanted to upgrade the brakes and struts from the origional because they are pretty shite.
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I supported Toymods
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Re: RA23 BRAKE UPGRADE
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Mon, 13 January 2003 06:50
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i went out today and bought a set of xt130 struts today and a set of hilux calipers for $80 each but the hilux calipers must of been post 1995 or whatever is required Spewin!!
rob where can i get peugot rotors for that price? bloddy repco and auto one wanted $170 each!
cheers
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c'town, NSW
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Re: RA23 BRAKE UPGRADE
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Mon, 13 January 2003 06:59
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do'h, sorry i made a mistake $270 should be $170, ill correct my post
so yeah i dont think you will find it much cheaper, just rock up to repco and look for the salesman who looks like hes just started working there and when you buy the discs off him say "ohh yeah **insert name here** gives me trade prices" 
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Re: RA23 BRAKE UPGRADE
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Mon, 13 January 2003 07:34
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arr damn!! ya had my hopes up  not to worry yeah i will do that
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I supported Toymods
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Toodyay, WA
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July 2002
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Re: RA23 BRAKE UPGRADE
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Mon, 13 January 2003 09:43
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thanks cam!
they are nearly half the price of Repco 100 each disc or there abouts
cheers mate
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I supported Toymods
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Re: RA23 BRAKE UPGRADE
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Mon, 13 January 2003 10:43
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Glad to be of service
I've just found the web site to be a great help also, ie what parts go with what etc.
CamZH
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adelaide
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Re: RA23 BRAKE UPGRADE
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Mon, 13 January 2003 15:31
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Hey,
Just a query or two while on the topic,
1. How significant is the brake difference with the rt132 strut and original discs and twin piston calipers, as compared to the standard RA23/8 strut setup? If suspension items like springs and shocks are interchangeable i mite go this option for current budget reasons, if its gonna make a noticeable affect on stopping.
2. Whats the exact stock disc diameter for the RA celica? is it single piston caliper? If one was to put in the rt132 strut setup the hilux 4-piston caliper bolts to the existing mounting holes am i correct? would this be worthwhile instead of rebuilding the corona calipers, yet retaining original 10.5" solid disc and having it machined?
3. are there any mounting difficulties or issues at all with the rt132 strut? i understand they fit into the existing strut mounts? will this increase the height or track or any suspension or steering geometry?
Any advice helpful and appreciated 
Cheers,
Guy
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Re: RA23 BRAKE UPGRADE
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Mon, 13 January 2003 23:33
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Hey,
one was to put in the rt132 strut setup the hilux 4-piston caliper bolts to the existing mounting holes am i correct?
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i dont think so i pretty sure its the xt130 that is a direct bolt up
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Re: RA23 BRAKE UPGRADE
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Mon, 13 January 2003 23:43
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looks like the RT132 and XT130 have the same strut, disc and brakes.
if i have time at lunch today ill go down P&P and try to confirm.
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Re: RA23 BRAKE UPGRADE
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Mon, 13 January 2003 23:50
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you would think that being a little bit older that the rt132 wouldnt be as good
also what are the mounting distances on the rt132 is it 90mm the same as the xt130?
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Re: RA23 BRAKE UPGRADE
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Tue, 14 January 2003 02:19
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i didnt have time to pop into P&Paymore at lunch but i have a feeling that if its the same twin piston sumitomo caliper on both models then the mounting bracket measurements are the same.
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Canberra
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December 2002
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Re: RA23 BRAKE UPGRADE
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Tue, 14 January 2003 02:28
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Thanks guys you have all been a huge help,
I have lined up to go and get my bits on the weekend took a bit but i managed Canberra just dosent seem to have the facilities that Sydney does.
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May 2002
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Re: RA23 BRAKE UPGRADE
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Tue, 14 January 2003 06:40
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Hey rob, if you're after a firmer pedal a bigger master cylinder might be the answer.
Besides the good old bolt on M/JZA-70 mc, which costs an absolute crap load to rebuild, I recently found out there's 2 Hilux mcs with the same bolt pattern, both bigger than the celica mc, and available brand new.
The different bore sizes are:
celica 13/16"
hilux 1. 14/16" (7/8) $105. Part no. JB1526
hilux 2. 15?16" $158. Part no. JB1503
supra 16/16" (1) $130 just for a rebuild kit.....
Those prices are from my local Auto 1, so I imagine they are PBR mcs.
As you can see the 2 hilux mcs are probably slightly more "sensible" upgrades, as going from 13/16' to the 1" supra is a pretty big jump. But, I've heard nothing but the very best of results from the supra upgrade.
I'm just pissed off that I'm stuck with a supra mc that cost me 90 bucks & needs another 200 odd spent on it, and that I found out about the hilux ones after I bought the supra one.
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Re: RA23 BRAKE UPGRADE
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Tue, 14 January 2003 07:08
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hey thanks for the info BW, but theres a little hassle with that, sort of the same kick in the pants you had.
when i was finished my conversion i had sold all my parts and i was kicking myself that i didnt put the mast cyliner into my car, so i dug one up and bought it, problem was i took it home and found that the RA40's have a 2 bolt mast cyl d'oh!
anyways appreciate the help
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Re: RA23 BRAKE UPGRADE
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Tue, 14 January 2003 07:26
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another thing to be wary of make sure that the struts you get outta the xt130 are xt130 i bought some yesterday and they were 100mm gap instead of 90mm i exchanged them today
just food for thought
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Re: RA23 BRAKE UPGRADE
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Tue, 14 January 2003 08:08
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Hey Guys,
One other thing to consider is the LN65 Caliper...
they are a 4 spot with a solid disc, not vented...
I should have measured the mounting holes when we still had it!
So i'm not sure if they're mounted at 90mm, but worth a look?
CamZH
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Re: RA23 BRAKE UPGRADE
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Tue, 14 January 2003 09:28
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Hey guys,
Just a quick question...
I'm thinking about getting a set of XT130 struts for Rala's car, and just putting them in, with the 2 spot sumitomo calipers, solid dics etc....
Do i need to have this engineered??
thanks,
CamZH
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ACT
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December 2002
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Re: RA23 BRAKE UPGRADE
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Wed, 15 January 2003 21:37
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Hi all,
I like Norbies idea of using the supra brakes - how do these compare with the four piston calipers?? any comments?
And to follow on from Cam's question - what mods require engineers certificate?
Ta
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Brisbane
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May 2002
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Re: RA23 BRAKE UPGRADE
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Thu, 16 January 2003 00:22
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The single-piston Supra calipers have the advantage of being lighter than the big 4-piston Hilux units, which has obvious advantages in terms of unsprung weight. As for their effectiveness, I would be very surprised if anyone found the limits of these brakes on the street... anything more is really overkill if you're not building a race car.
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