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DIY: Transmission Rebuild *** No 56k *** Fri, 04 November 2005 19:28 Go to next message
Brought this over from my club4ag post - though it'd be of interest for you guys.

Andrew
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Rebuilding (synchro's/bearings) t-50 toyota transmission.

Part #'s :
04331-14030 - Trans gasket kit (includes output shaft & input shaft seals)

90365-30020 BEARING, x 1 - Front - Input shaft bearing
90361-06047 ROLLER x 12 - Input/Output shaft roller/bearing
90363-25017 BEARING, x 1 - Rear - output shaft bearing
90369-30027 BEARING x 1 - Center - output shaft bearing
33365-14011 KEY, SYNC x 3 - 1/2 synchro hub keys
33368-20012 RING, SYN x 2 - 1/2 synchro's
33367-14010 RING, SYN x 2 - 3/4 synchro's
90365-30015 BEARING, x 1 - count shaft center bearing

More parts on the way

90365-20004 BEARING, x1 - front countershaft bearing
90365-20001 BEARING, x1 - rear countershaft bearing
33394-14010 KEY, 3&4 x3 3/4 synchro hub keys
33366-14010 KEY, 5&R x3 5/Rev synchro hub keys
33367-14010 RING, SYN x1 - 5th gear sychro
33363-14012 SLEEVE, T x1 - 1-2 shift collar/synchro hub
?????-????? x1 - 3-4 shift collar/synchro hub
90364-37002 BEARING, x2 - 1st & 2nd gear brgs
90364-37004 BEARING, x2 - reverse gear brgs
90364-27003 BEARING, x1 - 5th gear brg


Transmission pictures, steps and other useful info:

1. Transmission. (cleaned up, except for parts of the sr-5 bell housing which is going in the trash most likely)
http://gallery.image4free.com/albums/userpics/12290/1%20-%20Trans%20case.jpg

2. Bell housing.
http://gallery.image4free.com/albums/userpics/12290/2%20-%20Bell%20housing.jpg

3. Bell housing removed: Pretty simple to do. Remove throw out bearing, clutch fork and intput shaft collar (4 - 12mm bolts inside bell housing). Then you simply unbolt the 7 (or maybe its Cool 14mm bolts holding the bell housing onto the trans.
http://gallery.image4free.com/albums/userpics/12290/3%20-%20Bell%20housing%20removed.jpg

4. Extension housing.
http://gallery.image4free.com/albums/userpics/12290/4%20-%20Ext%20housing.jpg

5. Speedo gear removal/removed: Also relatively simple, but kind of delicate. Undo the 10mm bolt and remove the holding tab. Get some sort of penatrating lubricant (PB blaster in my case) and give a shot/drop where speedo gear goes into the Extension Housing. Get a flat tip screwdriver (med-large) and gently pry upwards while wiggling towards and away from the screw driver - be VERY careful as the aluminum housing for the speedo gear is pretty brittle/delicate and will chip if too much force used. Once it's part way out you won't be able to pry anymore, put the holding tab and bolt back in (facing away from speedo gear) and use it as a new pry point and continue. It'll come out - eventually.

Tip: if you have a spare speedo cable or a busted one its very easy to thread onto the end of the speedo gear and makes wiggling/tugging/removal much easier.
http://gallery.image4free.com/albums/userpics/12290/5%20-%20Speedo%20Gear%20removed.jpg

[Updated on: Mon, 14 November 2005 22:09]

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Re: DIY: Transmission Rebuild *** No 56k *** Fri, 04 November 2005 19:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
6. Speedo gears and gt-s speedo gear p#
http://gallery.image4free.com/albums/userpics/12290/6%20-%20Speedo%20Gear%201.jpg

7. SR-5 speedo gear - note the #20 stamped on it, it's the # of teeth it has and determines how fast the cable spins - thereby how fast the speedo shows.
http://gallery.image4free.com/albums/userpics/12290/7%20-%20Speedo%20Gear%202%20sr-5.jpg

8. GT-S speedo gear - has a #19, spins the cable just a little slower. Since the differential ratio is lower in the gt-s than the sr-5 (ie more revolutions of motor required to make the vehicle move the same speed) it's necessary to install a different speedo gear to match the gt-s gearing.
http://gallery.image4free.com/albums/userpics/12290/8%20-%20Speedo%20Gear%203%20gt-s.jpg

9. Shift lever stops/pins: Remove both from extension housing, easy to do, weren't in there all that hard either. Just a quick tap with an open palm on a crescent wrench and they were loose and spun right out.
http://gallery.image4free.com/albums/userpics/12290/9%20-%20Shift%20pin-stop.jpg

10. Reverse sensor: Remove, just use a 19mm deep socket. Behind/beneath the reverse sensor/switch is a ball bearing - remove it using a magnetic finger/wand/stick. (or flip the tranny over, it'll probably come out - just don't lose it!)
http://gallery.image4free.com/albums/userpics/12290/10%20-%20Reverse%20sensor.jpg
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Re: DIY: Transmission Rebuild *** No 56k *** Fri, 04 November 2005 19:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
11. Remove extension housing: here's where the shifter stops/pins being removed helps, by rotating the shifter cup/bucket/intermediate shaft in the extension housing you can slide the extension housing back and off without much difficulty. (no need to knock out the spring pin/clip in the shifter socket/bucket and sliding the shaft out - too much work)
http://gallery.image4free.com/albums/userpics/12290/11%20-%20Ext%20housing%20removed.jpg

12. Remove shift shaft check ball's & springs: Roll transmission upside down, remove the two 10mm bolts and plate. The springs you can pick up with your fingers, but the check balls will be down lower and you'll need a magnetic finger/shaft to get them out (as with the reverse switch ball. you can flip it over - just don't lose them!).
http://gallery.image4free.com/albums/userpics/12290/12%20-%20Shift%20shaft%20springs%20_%20check%20balls.jpg

13. Remove case half: Remove all 12mm bolts (11 total I think), tap case gently up and away from other half with a brass hammer or rubber mallet and it should come free.
http://gallery.image4free.com/albums/userpics/12290/13%20-%20Remove%20Trans%20case.jpg

14. Case removed - looks pretty cool, the input/output shaft and balance shaft will lift right out without having to do anything with the shift forks. Just remember, remove balance shaft first.
http://gallery.image4free.com/albums/userpics/12290/14%20-%20Case%20Removed.jpg

15. Case Cleaned.
http://gallery.image4free.com/albums/userpics/12290/15%20-%20Cases%20cleaned.jpg
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Re: DIY: Transmission Rebuild *** No 56k *** Fri, 04 November 2005 19:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
16. Gears - input/output shaft & balance shaft removed.
http://gallery.image4free.com/albums/userpics/12290/16%20-%20Gears.jpg

17. 1st gear synchro
http://gallery.image4free.com/albums/userpics/12290/17%20-%201st%20gear%20synchro.jpg

18. 2nd gear synchro. - see how the engagement is worn/damaged, I will probably replace this gear - and maybe the shift collar as well (if damaged)
http://gallery.image4free.com/albums/userpics/12290/18%20-%202nd%20gear%20synchro.jpg

19. 3rd gear synchro.
http://gallery.image4free.com/albums/userpics/12290/19%20-%203rd%20gear%20synchro.jpg

20. 4th gear synchro.
http://gallery.image4free.com/albums/userpics/12290/20%20-%204th%20gear%20synchro.jpg

21. 5th gear synchro.
http://gallery.image4free.com/albums/userpics/12290/21%20-%205th%20gear%20synchro.jpg

22. Reverse Gear - notice how chewed up the engagement for this gear is? That's because there is no synchronizer gear/ring for reverse and whoever drove on this trans before me was probably jamming it into reverse, possibly while still moving/rolling forward. But, since it is reverse, I'm not too worried about it and probably won't replace it.
http://gallery.image4free.com/albums/userpics/12290/22%20-%20reverse%20gear_no%20synchro.jpg
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Re: DIY: Transmission Rebuild *** No 56k *** Fri, 04 November 2005 19:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
23. Input shaft - pulls right out with ease, and the roller bearings just fall out.
http://gallery.image4free.com/albums/userpics/12290/23%20-%20Input%20shaft_rollerbearings.jpg

24. Input shaft - shaft partially dissassembled, front portion of output shaft dissassembled (3rd gear, synchro, 3-4 collar, clips, keys) Unfortunately I need a press and bearing remover to pull the bearing off the input shaft for replacement.
http://gallery.image4free.com/albums/userpics/12290/24%20-%20Input%20shaft%20-%203_4%20gear%20and%20synchro.jpg

25. Output shaft - cleaned up after front dissassembled.
http://gallery.image4free.com/albums/userpics/12290/25%20-%20Output%20shaft%20-%203_4%20gear%20spline%20cleaned.jpg

26. Speedo driver gear - on rear end of output shaft, removed.
http://gallery.image4free.com/albums/userpics/12290/26%20-%20Output%20shaft%20-%20Speedo%20drive%20gear%20removed.jpg

27. Counter shaft - front bolt and bearing/shaft retainer clip.
http://gallery.image4free.com/albums/userpics/12290/27%20-%20Counter%20shaft%20-%20front%20clip-bolt.jpg

28. Counter shaft - rear clip.
http://gallery.image4free.com/albums/userpics/12290/28%20-%20Counter%20shaft%20-%20rear%20clip.jpg

[Updated on: Fri, 04 November 2005 19:34]

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Re: DIY: Transmission Rebuild *** No 56k *** Fri, 04 November 2005 19:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
29. Some of the parts needed have arrived. Of the bearings in the red boxes - only the three for the input/output shaft and the middle bearing (with dimple, for countershaft) have arrived, I will be ordering the two outer countershaft bearings.
http://gallery.image4free.com/albums/userpics/12290/29%20-%20some%20parts.jpg

30. Puller/Tool used to remove the outer bearings on the countershaft. On the front bearing the puller tool will slip right into the opening for the retaining bolt. So what I did was grab a spare stud from the side of a largeport block (the same studs that hold alt/ps/ac/motor mounts) and used that as a press point.
http://gallery.image4free.com/albums/userpics/12290/30%20-%20puller-tool.jpg

31. Front counter shaft bearing dissassembled (order of installation from left to right - washer/race goes down first, then bearing assy, then main bearing race - which is held in place by a bolt)
http://gallery.image4free.com/albums/userpics/12290/31%20-%20front%20cshaft%20brng%20diss.jpg

32. Front counter shaft bearing again - hopefully you can make out the part #, probably can pick 'em up aftermarket with a cross reference/guide.
http://gallery.image4free.com/albums/userpics/12290/32%20-%20front%20cshaft%20brng.jpg

33. Front counter shaft bearing again (shown in order of installation)
http://gallery.image4free.com/albums/userpics/12290/33%20-%20front%20cshaft%20_%20bearing.jpg

34. Rear counter shaft bearing. (order of installation - washer/race, bearing assy, main bearing race, then retaining c-clip)
http://gallery.image4free.com/albums/userpics/12290/34%20-%20rear%20cshaft%20bearing%20diss.jpg

35. Rear counter shaft bearing - part #.
http://gallery.image4free.com/albums/userpics/12290/35%20-%20rear%20cshaft%20bearing.jpg

36. Partially disassembled countershaft.
http://gallery.image4free.com/albums/userpics/12290/36%20-%20rear%20cshaft%20partly%20diss.jpg

[Updated on: Fri, 04 November 2005 19:36]

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Re: DIY: Transmission Rebuild *** No 56k *** Fri, 04 November 2005 19:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
37 - Trans gasket kit
http://gallery.image4free.com/albums/userpics/12290/37%20-%20trans%20gasket%20kit.jpg

38 - Dissassembled output shaft - You'll need a press and a small and medium/large bearing seperator. When dissassembling be sure not to loose the three small ball bearings/locking balls as they can fall out and get lost fairly easily. Also the 3/4 size clips that are removed will bounce right off the floor and into no-mans land if you're not careful, I'd recommend laying down a nice fluffy towel to dampen the impact as you don't want to loose those either.

(parts start at top Left and go in order of dissassembly from the end of the output shaft all the way to 2nd gear.)
http://gallery.image4free.com/albums/userpics/12290/38%20-%20Dissassembled%20output%20shaft.jpg

39 - Output shaft end bearing
http://gallery.image4free.com/albums/userpics/12290/39%20-%20Output%20shaft%20end%20bearing.jpg

40 - Output shaft center bearing
http://gallery.image4free.com/albums/userpics/12290/40%20-%20Output%20shaft%20center%20bearing.jpg

41 - 1-2 shift collar - 2nd gear side
http://gallery.image4free.com/albums/userpics/12290/41%20-%20%201-2%20shift%20collar%20-%201st%20gear%20side.jpg

42 - 1-2 shift collar close up (I will be replacing it, too much wear/damage)
http://gallery.image4free.com/albums/userpics/12290/42%20-%201-2%20shift%20collar%20close%20up.jpg

43 - Input shaft - new bearing installed
http://gallery.image4free.com/albums/userpics/12290/43%20-%20Input%20shaft%20-%20new%20bearing%20installed.jpg

44 - Input shaft bearing
http://gallery.image4free.com/albums/userpics/12290/44%20-%20Input%20shaft%20bearing.jpg

45 - Counter shaft center bearing installed
http://gallery.image4free.com/albums/userpics/12290/45%20-%20Counter%20shaft%20center%20bearing%20installed.jpg

46 - Counter shaft center bearing
http://gallery.image4free.com/albums/userpics/12290/46%20-%20Counter%20shaft%20center%20bearing.jpg

More to come... Close up of bearings provided so the mfg. #'s can be seen and hopefully used to put together a parts list from aftermarket for a less costly repair (as I have spent quite a bit thus far and more to go)

[Updated on: Sat, 10 December 2005 03:43]

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Re: DIY: Transmission Rebuild *** No 56k *** Sat, 05 November 2005 02:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Good work champ... most of us here are happy to pull down engines but there would only be a select few of us here that have ever pulled down a gearbox!
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Re: DIY: Transmission Rebuild *** No 56k *** Sat, 05 November 2005 02:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
indeed thats excellent!
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Re: DIY: Transmission Rebuild *** No 56k *** Sat, 05 November 2005 03:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
so true gearboxes are sooo complex im findind that the hard way atm..
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Re: DIY: Transmission Rebuild *** No 56k *** Sat, 05 November 2005 04:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Amazing stuff man!! Good to see others sharing info for the greater Toyota modifying community Smile

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Re: DIY: Transmission Rebuild *** No 56k *** Sat, 05 November 2005 04:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
4agte wrote on Sat, 05 November 2005 14:06

so true gearboxes are sooo complex im findind that the hard way atm..


I think its the fact that the parts in a gearbox all look very similar that makes them look complex... mixing all the bits up could be a tragedy!
With an engine you can pretty much just chuck all the bits into a box and still know what goes where when it comes to putting it back together.
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Re: DIY: Transmission Rebuild *** No 56k *** Sat, 05 November 2005 06:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
I am in total agree ance with Toobs I wopuld never pull down a box but have no issues what so ever doing an engine, having said that I have done some work on w58's and had them apart.
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Re: DIY: Transmission Rebuild *** No 56k *** Sat, 05 November 2005 09:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Toobs wrote on Sat, 05 November 2005 15:49

4agte wrote on Sat, 05 November 2005 14:06

so true gearboxes are sooo complex im findind that the hard way atm..


I think its the fact that the parts in a gearbox all look very similar that makes them look complex... mixing all the bits up could be a tragedy!
With an engine you can pretty much just chuck all the bits into a box and still know what goes where when it comes to putting it back together.


Definately that most of the parts look similar that makes it a little more complex - but it also has a LOT more moving parts than an engine does. I'm hoping this helps those that are considering tackling something like this in the future.

Also having it already laid out like this makes it seem a lot simpler, and you can always look at/reference the pictures if you mix up or confuse something.



I even took closer pictures of the individual bearings so that you can take the manufacturer of the bearing and part # down to the parts store and possibly see about purchasing them from the same manufacturer for less than it'd cost from toyota - or cross reference the bearing p#'s to a different manufacturer and use one with the same specs, just made elsewhere.

For instance the rear output shaft bearing (old) was a 'Koyo' bearing and the (new) one is a 'Nachi'...

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Re: DIY: Transmission Rebuild *** No 56k *** Sat, 05 November 2005 14:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
haha I don't think I'll ever be pulling mine apart... a T series box is one thing but an awd e series box with 2 differentials will most likely mean you'd need an acre of space to lay out all the bits in order!
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Re: DIY: Transmission Rebuild *** No 56k *** Sun, 06 November 2005 14:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
That's an awesome write-up Andrew - excellent work.
How similar do you think it would be to a W58?

Thanks

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Re: DIY: Transmission Rebuild *** No 56k *** Sun, 06 November 2005 14:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
do you know the problem if your 5th gear comes out of gear while driving????????

which part would be need changing or worn????

its a W55 Smile
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Re: DIY: Transmission Rebuild *** No 56k *** Mon, 07 November 2005 00:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
82MKII wrote on Mon, 07 November 2005 01:31

That's an awesome write-up Andrew - excellent work.
How similar do you think it would be to a W58?

Thanks

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Probably very similar - RWD manual transmissions are pretty similar afaik. Just different sizes/gears/lengths/ratios.

An easy way to tell would be to print out the picture of the t-50 break down from the documentation on this site and compare it to one of the w58, I'm sure you can find it somewhere (even if you have to go to a stealership and copy a couple pages)

wolverine wrote on Mon, 07 November 2005 01:41

do you know the problem if your 5th gear comes out of gear while driving????????

which part would be need changing or worn????

its a W55 Smile


Most likely a worn/damaged 5th gear and/or 5th gear synchro hub.

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Re: DIY: Transmission Rebuild *** No 56k *** Mon, 07 November 2005 05:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Someone (ie, forum mods) should mirror these photos on the toymods server or turn it into a tech article.
Dont want somthing this useful to dissapear.
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Re: DIY: Transmission Rebuild *** No 56k *** Mon, 07 November 2005 05:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
M.W.P. wrote on Mon, 07 November 2005 16:21

Someone (ie, forum mods) should mirror these photos on the toymods server or turn it into a tech article.
Dont want somthing this useful to dissapear.


That'd be nice - I actually made the photo server account just for these pictures so they'd stay up and I wouldn't exceed any limits or have to delete them in the future.

I'm considering (once done) turning the post into a web page/tech article to have added to club4ag.com - if I do I'd be more than willing to send it to someone to have added. I would've loved to have something like this to look at/reference before I attempted it.

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Re: DIY: Transmission Rebuild *** No 56k *** Mon, 07 November 2005 07:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
There is a fair bit of difference between W5* and T50. T50 are split case, so you can just split the two sides and lay it down neatly and take the mainshaft and layshaft out (as shown in the writeup).

W58s dont have a splitcase and so you need to take the extension housing off, then the sandwich plate, and then take all the internals out through the back. The reverse arrangement also looks a little different, though I have never fully pulled down a W5* before.

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Re: DIY: Transmission Rebuild *** No 56k *** Mon, 07 November 2005 07:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
wolverine wrote on Mon, 07 November 2005 01:41

do you know the problem if your 5th gear comes out of gear while driving????????

which part would be need changing or worn????

its a W55 Smile


I would suspect a worn shift fork / lock pin on the 5th / reverse shift fork...

As Henn said, W5X's are not split case so there is a fair difference Smile

Still golly good write up / documentation! It would be good if it could makes its way into a pdf or word doc and into the tech docs. Smile

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Re: DIY: Transmission Rebuild *** No 56k *** Mon, 07 November 2005 18:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Henn wrote on Mon, 07 November 2005 18:46

There is a fair bit of difference between W5* and T50. T50 are split case, so you can just split the two sides and lay it down neatly and take the mainshaft and layshaft out (as shown in the writeup).

W58s dont have a splitcase and so you need to take the extension housing off, then the sandwich plate, and then take all the internals out through the back. The reverse arrangement also looks a little different, though I have never fully pulled down a W5* before.

Hen


I meant in general they work on very similar design principals and the actual gears/synchro/hub arrangement is taken apart much as a t-50. Even though the case arrangement/fork setup is different.

If we were looking at a FWD transmission things would be a little different - as the final gear/differential is integrated into the transmission.

Photo breakdown of w-58 and t-50.

EDIT: Images removed to save space on my photohosting account

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Re: DIY: Transmission Rebuild *** No 56k *** Tue, 08 November 2005 00:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Damn this is great info. Keep going!

Any chance you know where I can get R154 info? My reverse gear is nearing end of life.
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Re: DIY: Transmission Rebuild *** No 56k *** Tue, 08 November 2005 00:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
R154? Supra 6-speed then - I'd try supraforums.com, they seemed pretty helpful from what I was able to find on their site. I was lurking for injector information on a turbo build up for my 3rz. Which hit the backburner once I got my AE86...

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Re: DIY: Transmission Rebuild *** No 56k *** Tue, 08 November 2005 01:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
assassin10000 wrote on Tue, 08 November 2005 11:29

R154? Supra 6-speed then - I'd try supraforums.com, they seemed pretty helpful from what I was able to find on their site. I was lurking for injector information on a turbo build up for my 3rz. Which hit the backburner once I got my AE86...

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R154 is 5 Speed, as found behind 7M-GTE's and 1JZ-GTE's...the 6 speed is the V160/V161.

MA70 TSRM here

http://www.cygnusx1.net/supra/library/TSRM/mt/MT_50.gif

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Re: DIY: Transmission Rebuild *** No 56k *** Tue, 08 November 2005 01:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
wilbo666 wrote on Tue, 08 November 2005 12:33

...the 6 speed is the V160/V161.

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I'm not too well versed across all the toyota makes and models as far as engine/trans designations go...

Andrew
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Soarer
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Re: DIY: Transmission Rebuild *** No 56k *** Tue, 08 November 2005 04:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Excellent work guys. Thanks a heap Smile
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Re: DIY: Transmission Rebuild *** No 56k *** Thu, 08 December 2005 16:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
47 - more parts.

http://gallery.image4free.com/albums/userpics/12290/47%20-%20more%20parts.jpg

48 - Countershaft assembled w_new bearings.

http://gallery.image4free.com/albums/userpics/12290/48%20-%20Countershaft%20assembled%20w_new%20bearings.jpg

49 - Assembling Outputshaft - 2nd gear _ synchro hub installed.

Here's where the fun starts, when reassembling the output shaft there are 3 small ball bearings which sink into the output shaft and hold certain pieces steady. When pressing it together you need to keep everything lined up and the locking balls in place. What I did was grease the cup on the output shaft to hold the balls in place, and when pressing everything together I held everything up in place with a finger or two - no worries about crushing a finger, it's fairly easy to do and there is enough room to get you're finger out well ahead of time...

http://gallery.image4free.com/albums/userpics/12290/49%20-%20Assembling%20Outputshaft%20-%202nd%20gear%20_%20synchro%20hub%20installed.jpg

50 - Assembling Outputshaft - 1st gear & center bearing installed.

http://gallery.image4free.com/albums/userpics/12290/50%20-%20Assembling%20Outputshaft%20-%201st%20gear%20_%20center%20bearing%20installed.jpg

51 - Almost assembled Outputshaft & Assembled Coutershaft.

Just need to put 3rd gear and the 3/4 sychnro hub together and on, and also the speedometer drive gear.

http://gallery.image4free.com/albums/userpics/12290/51%20-%20Almost%20assembled%20Outputshaft%20_%20Assembled%20Coutershaft.jpg

Still waiting on the new 3/4 shift collar/sleeve/synchro hub...
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Re: DIY: Transmission Rebuild *** No 56k *** Thu, 08 December 2005 21:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
good work!! the gearbox must be worth more than my car !!
good second hand parts would have been o.k for me, and buying the bearings from toyota is not a good idea.
but if you get stuck i'll help you out.
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Re: DIY: Transmission Rebuild *** No 56k *** Fri, 09 December 2005 00:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
evoX3 wrote on Fri, 09 December 2005 08:23

the gearbox must be worth more than my car !! good second hand parts would have been o.k for me, and buying the bearings from toyota is not a good idea.


Actually I have paid more in parts for this than I bought my car for (over 800 us in parts, paid 650 us for the car)

The bearings probably were ok - but I decided if I was going to do this to go all the way.

Andrew
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Re: DIY: Transmission Rebuild *** No 56k *** Fri, 09 December 2005 02:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
52 - Removing GT-S bellhousing.

http://gallery.image4free.com/albums/userpics/12290/52%20-%20Removing%20GT-S%20bellhousing.jpg

53 - Removed GT-S bellhousing, degreasing.

http://gallery.image4free.com/albums/userpics/12290/53%20-%20Removed%20GT-S%20bellhousing%2C%20degreasing.jpg

54 - Removed SR-5 bellhousing, T-50 from the GT-S swap.

http://gallery.image4free.com/albums/userpics/12290/54%20-%20Removed%20SR-5%20bellhousing%2C%20T-50%20from%20the%20GT-S%20swap.jpg

55 - The car, not driveable unfortunately

http://gallery.image4free.com/albums/userpics/12290/55%20-%20The%20car%2C%20not%20driveable%20unfortunately.jpg

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Re: DIY: Transmission Rebuild *** No 56k *** Fri, 09 December 2005 06:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
fantastic article!!

makes me feel a bit more confident about rebuilding my shagged w58 in the future...
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Re: DIY: Transmission Rebuild *** No 56k *** Sat, 10 December 2005 03:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
56 - Cleaned bellhousing.

http://gallery.image4free.com/albums/userpics/12290/56%20-%20Cleaned%20bellhousing.jpg

All pictures have been edited/shrunk to a lower resolution for faster loading... And to keep my photo account below 15 mb.
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Re: DIY: Transmission Rebuild *** No 56k *** Sat, 10 December 2005 08:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
what car is that in the background
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Re: DIY: Transmission Rebuild *** No 56k *** Sat, 10 December 2005 09:12 Go to previous message
My friends 92 NSX: Marga hills front headlight conversion/bumper. JDM carbon fiber side skirts (painted), JDM carbon fiber vented hood, JDM JGTC 7 layer dry carbon fiber wing, 03 nsx rear bumper/valence, Technomagnesio magnesium wheels, nsx type-r comptech gearset and final drive trans (usdm nsx's have crappy gear ratio's and drop out of vtech when shifting in the 5 speeds), intake/headers/exhaust and lots of other goodies.

Before pics:
http://www.mestiso.net/photogallery/nsx/bigimages/DSC00993.jpg

http://www.mestiso.net/photogallery/nsx/bigimages/DSC00997.jpg

After pics:

http://www.mestiso.net/photogallery/newnsx/bigimages/CIMG0698.jpg

http://www.mestiso.net/photogallery/newnsx/bigimages/CIMG0695.jpg

The bike to the left is what amounts to a world superbike - that's street driven. It's been through 3-4 photo shoots for a magazine but politics/management changes have kept it from having a full blown article - yet.

It will rev freely, its a kawasaki zx7r (last of the ones that had an R that actually stood for race model) with a ton of modifications, rev's freely to 16.5 and put down 169 rwhp on a dyno with a 'mild' tune. Sprocket has been changed to keep the top speed below 200 mph.

My friend and I are currently involved in getting ready to put together a 6-800 hp civic hatchback.
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