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Re: 7MGTE vs 1JZGTE
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Thu, 17 November 2005 05:32
 
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| 1JZ.747 wrote on Thu, 17 November 2005 16:19 |
yes i do enjoy rap music,
also country
also techno and trans music.
but i gave up that redneck shit you listen too 
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Doesn't look like it to me.
I like Techno and Trance too by the way.
I can't listen to rap for too long. Most of it is all about how to solve your problems with a baseball bat, taking drugs, or objectifying women. My sense of humour is fairly violent (ie, I make jokes about hurting people a lot) but I'm not a very violent person otherwise and don't enjoy hearing about how some guy shoots people for looking at him wrong. If it can avoid those kinds of subjects then it's not so bad most of the time.
Anyway...
*puts on daft chemical brothers* ahh, that's the shit. 
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I supported Toymods
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Adelaide
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July 2004
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Re: 7MGTE vs 1JZGTE
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Thu, 17 November 2005 05:37
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| Shraka wrote on Thu, 17 November 2005 15:47 |
| 1JZ.747 wrote on Thu, 17 November 2005 16:05 |
the funny thing is the more i listen closley to rap music, he is in so many songs, saying just those three words.
ie ushers song "yeah"
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You listen to rap music?  Wierdo.
Anyway...
"THE MILK'S GONE SOUR!"
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"bitch show charlie murphy them titties"
"I wouldnt go to somebodies house and wipe my feet all over thier couch, I wasnt crazy like that"
"yeah I wiped my feet on eddie murphy's couch"
"why did you do it"
"he could afford to buy a new one"
"FUCK YO COUCH NIGGA, FUCK YO COUCH!"
"come to think of it, I think im bleedin inside my chest"
"I cant belive I was reminiscing about charlie murphy kickin my ass"
"THEY SHOULDA NEVER GIVEN YOU NIGGAHS MONEY!"
"DARKNESS, DARKNESS EVERYWHERE!"
"What did the five fingers say to the face? SLAP!"
"hold my drink bitch!"
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaannnnnnd im spent
oh yeah
shane:
WHAAAAT!
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sunny coast, qld
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October 2002
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Re: 7MGTE vs 1JZGTE
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Thu, 17 November 2005 05:59
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Back on topic: I wish I had a p00 motor 
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Baulko Hillo
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April 2004
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Re: 7MGTE vs 1JZGTE
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Thu, 17 November 2005 06:22
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| 1JZ.747 wrote on Wed, 16 November 2005 14:48 |
did i mention it doesnt use any oil at all.
i do oil and filter on average every 3000k's or if i have a race meet i change it.
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get your hand off it ya blowarse.
It's fucking built and you know it. Quit with the BS ffs.
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newcastle
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September 2003
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Re: 7MGTE vs 1JZGTE
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Thu, 17 November 2005 06:49
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7M is easier to work on in every aspect, feels much more torquey , had stock boost of 5-6psi to make 180kw compared to the 1jzs 10psi, is more fuel efficient in my experience because it doesnt need constant boost i spose, can be reliable after you fix headgasket issues and make sure you dont spin big end bearings due to low oil issues, probably due to sump / oil pump or just plain low oil,
My 1jz jz30 just doesnt feel strong at all compared to my mz21(both autos), i would hate to say it but i think all that power up top gives it a better 0-100 though, it sounds pretty dodgy at high rpm though where as the 7m hits the rev limiter real hard and feels good all the way there. also the auto trans in the 1j has better shift patterns , on the other hand it also does some dodgy torque limiting shifts witch make it suck balls,
I am biased because i dig my 7m and the mz shape but i do own both so this is just one mans opinion based on experience, sorry if i entered the discussion late and i didnt have much time to post this so it aint real pretty
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sunny coast, qld
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Re: 7MGTE vs 1JZGTE
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Thu, 17 November 2005 06:55
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When I look at a 7m engine bay it just looks a lot messier and harder to work on. Although working on a jzz30 is also a bit of a pain in the ass. Working on my 1j in my corona is a lot easier as there is less shit around the place 
Stock boost on 1j is 8psi AFAIK.
Good writeup though from an unbiased opinion. Wouldn’t be many of those here
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I supported Toymods
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Epping, Sydney
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May 2002
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Re: 7MGTE vs 1JZGTE
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Thu, 17 November 2005 09:25
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| soara7mgte wrote on Thu, 17 November 2005 17:49 |
i would hate to say it but i think all that power up top gives it a better 0-100 though, it sounds pretty dodgy at high rpm though where as the 7m hits the rev limiter real hard and feels good all the way there.
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the only prob 1js get at high rpm is the restriction by the stock dumps... other than that feeling of the power plateauing high up my 1j revs smoothly to over 7000
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newcastle
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September 2003
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Re: 7MGTE vs 1JZGTE
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Fri, 18 November 2005 04:58
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if you ever have to change the water pump you would know what im talking about ,haha, 7m is easy 1jz is not at all, i had to pull not only the timing belt off, but also the harmonic balancer and the cam sprockets, 7m was a couple of bolts, haha, yer my 1j has stock exaughst and all but it still runs 10psi, maybe i should base my opinion after i get the exaughst and dumps done, anyone selling any dumps or exaughst system to suit, or know where i can get some used jap ones?
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Central Coast, NSW
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February 2005
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Re: 7MGTE vs 1JZGTE
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Fri, 18 November 2005 05:17
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| MR 1JZ wrote on Thu, 17 November 2005 16:37 |
| Shraka wrote on Thu, 17 November 2005 15:47 |
| 1JZ.747 wrote on Thu, 17 November 2005 16:05 |
the funny thing is the more i listen closley to rap music, he is in so many songs, saying just those three words.
ie ushers song "yeah"
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You listen to rap music? Wierdo.
Anyway...
"THE MILK'S GONE SOUR!"
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"bitch show charlie murphy them titties"
"I wouldnt go to somebodies house and wipe my feet all over thier couch, I wasnt crazy like that"
"yeah I wiped my feet on eddie murphy's couch"
"why did you do it"
"he could afford to buy a new one"
"FUCK YO COUCH NIGGA, FUCK YO COUCH!"
"come to think of it, I think im bleedin inside my chest"
"I cant belive I was reminiscing about charlie murphy kickin my ass"
"THEY SHOULDA NEVER GIVEN YOU NIGGAHS MONEY!"
"DARKNESS, DARKNESS EVERYWHERE!"
"What did the five fingers say to the face? SLAP!"
"hold my drink bitch!"
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaannnnnnd im spent
oh yeah
shane:
WHAAAAT!
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I'm rick james, BITCH!
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Melbourne
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November 2003
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Re: 7MGTE vs 1JZGTE
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Fri, 18 November 2005 05:46
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| soara7mgte wrote on Fri, 18 November 2005 15:58 |
if you ever have to change the water pump you would know what im talking about ,haha, 7m is easy 1jz is not at all, i had to pull not only the timing belt off, but also the harmonic balancer and the cam sprockets, 7m was a couple of bolts, haha, yer my 1j has stock exaughst and all but it still runs 10psi, maybe i should base my opinion after i get the exaughst and dumps done, anyone selling any dumps or exaughst system to suit, or know where i can get some used jap ones?
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LOL, yeah. That'll be why you have problems up high.
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Australia
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Osama's hideout
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Re: 7MGTE vs 1JZGTE
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Sun, 20 November 2005 06:58
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| HKS_TRD wrote on Sat, 19 November 2005 22:55 |
I love reading debates on this whenever they frequently come up. I know for some people the fact that everyone shitcans the 7M is what motivates them to make them work.
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thats the thing 1j's work, you dont have to get motivated to make them work.
7m 1j who cares as long as its toyota powered.
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Re: 7MGTE vs 1JZGTE
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Sun, 20 November 2005 10:35
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| joorsh wrote on Sun, 20 November 2005 21:29 |
| 1JZ.747 wrote on Sun, 20 November 2005 17:58 |
7m 1j who cares as long as its toyota powered.
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Oh come on, that's not in the spirit of the toymods forums!
M owners will argue with J owners. It's like the changing of the tides.
Just let it be 
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Shutup you whinging p00jay girl.
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Re: 7MGTE vs 1JZGTE
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Sun, 20 November 2005 11:02
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What was that sound? Did anyone elser hear that?
Sounded kind of like bubbling.
Better check your coolant levels Dongah. Is there oil in the radiator cap? What about the dipstick? Any moisture there?
You should be able to limp it around anyway - at least until your gearbox grenades. 
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Re: 7MGTE vs 1JZGTE
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Sun, 20 November 2005 11:13
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Nice double post retard.
Last time i checked, your gearbox was going to grenade before mine.
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Re: 7MGTE vs 1JZGTE
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Sun, 20 November 2005 11:14
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Pwned!
2 mins too slow there BVD
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Perth
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Re: 7MGTE vs 1JZGTE
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Sun, 20 November 2005 22:45
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| BlackSupra wrote on Sun, 20 November 2005 19:13 |
Last time i checked, your gearbox was going to grenade before mine.
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Last time I checked, he drove like a geriatric, you don't
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Re: 7MGTE vs 1JZGTE
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Sun, 20 November 2005 22:47
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| justcallmefrank wrote on Mon, 21 November 2005 09:15 |
| BlackSupra wrote on Sun, 20 November 2005 19:13 |
Last time i checked, your gearbox was going to grenade before mine.
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Last time I checked, he drove like a geriatric, you don't
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im suprised the W5X's dont explode on idle behind a 2JZ 
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Re: 7MGTE vs 1JZGTE
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Sun, 20 November 2005 23:00
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Norbie's first W58 survived for a while, and he drives like he's trying to kill it. It all comes down to driving style.
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Re: 7MGTE vs 1JZGTE
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Sun, 20 November 2005 23:03
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I don't think there can really be a sensible comparison between 7m and 1j motors because thy are so far apart in age and technology. One day the 1jz will be the shitcanned/outdated engine.
The difference if you are planning to modify seems to be with a 1jz you buy a 2nd hand engine, strap an industrial sized compressor to the side of it, upgrade injectors/spark and make big power.
If you have a 7m, you tend pull it aprat, deck the block, ensure the head is not warped/cracked/soft, put on a metal HG, replace the head bolt with studs, recon the oil pump, replace bearings, add forgies (if you can afford them), upgrade injectors - all before adding the big compressor.
I know the waer pump is a bitch on the 1jz, but you shouldn't have to take the cam sprokets off to get to it.
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November 2003
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Re: 7MGTE vs 1JZGTE
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Mon, 21 November 2005 02:26
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| lumpy wrote on Mon, 21 November 2005 10:03 |
One day the 1jz will be the shitcanned/outdated engine.
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By that time I think we'll all be using hydrogen engines or something like that, and performance guys will be begging for the good old internal combustion engines to come back and to kick these new heavy underpowered electric hunks of junk.
Viva the JZ series!
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