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Re: Group buy on Crower cams for 1jz
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Wed, 16 November 2005 02:53
 
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chris you can buy form greenline motorsports for those type of prices every pld day of the week.
pm me if you need help
shane
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Re: Group buy on Crower cams for 1jz
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Wed, 16 November 2005 05:29
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chris what kind of power increase do you reckon could be seen with a pair of 272's?
bear in mind im running a turbo similar to yours?
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Re: Group buy on Crower cams for 1jz
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Wed, 16 November 2005 06:00
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about 100kW if he actually had a tuned ignition curve 
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Re: Group buy on Crower cams for 1jz
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Wed, 16 November 2005 06:04
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lets say if he was making the correct power...
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Re: Group buy on Crower cams for 1jz
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Wed, 16 November 2005 06:26
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yeah, my gains I think will be a bit different to typical gains
I would think a fair amount but can't really guess a number. The basics are that most people can make close to 300rwkw through an auto with stock cams and a decent single turbo setup. If you want much more than that, it is a good idea to upgrade the cams and valve train to allow more air at higher revs and also be able to rev the engine higher which will also allow it to make more power.
I can't remember where I found it, but there is a graph of different cams for the 2jz. It is for HKS ones but you get the idea, has stock cams, 256's, 264's and 272's. The 256's and 264's seems to bring the power on a bit quicker and make more power in the top end whereas the 272's had similar low down power to stock cams but more top end than all other cam setups. This is HKS ones which are 9.0mm lift for 256 and 264 and 9.3mm and 9.0mm for 272's (exh and inl) are different. The ones I am looking at are the 272's with 9.1mm lift or possibly the 268/276 9.5mm and 10mm lift as I am now thinking of getting the valve springs and retainers as well and may as well go all out 
Going to ask Manny about interference on the 1jz engine now.
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Re: Group buy on Crower cams for 1jz
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Wed, 16 November 2005 06:37
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He said that HKS/JUN say that anything above 9.0mm becomes an interferance engine. Snapped a timing belt with 9.0 264's and no bent valves.
So any of these options make the engine interference.
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Re: Group buy on Crower cams for 1jz
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Wed, 16 November 2005 06:57
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| Chris Davey wrote on Wed, 16 November 2005 17:07 |
He said that HKS/JUN say that anything above 9.0mm becomes an interferance engine. Snapped a timing belt with 9.0 264's and no bent valves.
So any of these options make the engine interference.
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id better put in a new timing belt if i go for these puppies then 
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Re: Group buy on Crower cams for 1jz
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Wed, 16 November 2005 09:48
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Have you spoken to Wade cam's in Victoria?
Wade ground me up a brand new set cams for billet castings they do and they cost me in AUD what you are looking to pay in USD.
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Re: Group buy on Crower cams for 1jz
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Wed, 16 November 2005 21:48
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Clive Cams here in Vic is able to get billets for the 2JZGTE so you might wish to investigate if they are the same as 1JZGTE cams. Last time I chatted to Clive (two years ago), he was quoting $700 + GST for the pair.
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Re: Group buy on Crower cams for 1jz
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Wed, 16 November 2005 22:01
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Dave,
Do you have a contact number for this Clive dude ?
I wonder what 7M cams they have available ?
Cheers
Michael B
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Re: Group buy on Crower cams for 1jz
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Wed, 16 November 2005 22:04
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CLIVE CAMS
31a Metropolitan Ave Nunawading 3131 (03) 9877 3607
Michael, don't know what other billets he is able to get.
Also try Kelford Cams in NZ. Tighe and Wade have already been mentioned.
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Re: Group buy on Crower cams for 1jz
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Thu, 17 November 2005 06:08
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So are new billet ones cheaper than adding metal and regrinding stock ones? I got quoted $1250 for regrinds which I thought was pretty damn steep considering the price of second hand HKS cams.
I may give these guys a call and see what they can do.
2jz cams need to be modded to fit in a 1jz. Crower are getting someones stock cams and making them exactly the same but with more aggressive lift and duration but it will be bolt in, no modding bizzo.
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Re: Group buy on Crower cams for 1jz
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Thu, 17 November 2005 23:55
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Please find the measurements below
Cams
Duration
@ .050
Specs
Stock 1JZ @ Lobe Lift (in inches)
Intake 189.1 0.304
Exhaust 194.1 0.313
HKS 264
Intake i222 0.364
Exhaust e222 0.364
HKS 272
Intake i229 0.374
Exhaust e231 0.38
These are the NEW 1jz cam measurements we are going to use.
Crower
Stage 1 i214 0.380
264 e218 0.380
Stage 2 i220 0.4
272 e228 0.406
Stage 3 i232 0.415
280 e234 0.425
I like the look of stage 1. I am going to ring some places in oz today to check pricing though.
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Re: Group buy on Crower cams for 1jz
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Fri, 18 November 2005 02:35
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| Chris Davey wrote on Thu, 17 November 2005 17:08 |
2jz cams need to be modded to fit in a 1jz.
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in what way?
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Re: Group buy on Crower cams for 1jz
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Fri, 18 November 2005 02:42
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| gianttomato wrote on Fri, 18 November 2005 13:35 |
| Chris Davey wrote on Thu, 17 November 2005 17:08 |
2jz cams need to be modded to fit in a 1jz.
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Unsure. I read it on SF.com. A guy fitted stock 2j cams into his 1j to see if there was any difference in power. (negligible) He said that some part of it had to be ground back or something like that. I don't really know the specifics.
Spoke to Tighe and they were trying to sell the regrinds rather than new ones and they are $1200ish.
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Re: Group buy on Crower cams for 1jz
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Sat, 19 November 2005 10:31
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call surecam in brissie
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