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lemons
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Thu, 24 November 2005 07:32
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jsut wanted to know some cars that came off the production line and were dodgy and were always problematic.
cheers dino
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Re: lemons
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Thu, 24 November 2005 07:37
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Camira comes to mind before any others 
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Location:
Newcastle
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June 2002
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Re: lemons
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Thu, 24 November 2005 07:48
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Hyundai excel
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I supported Toymods
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Re: lemons
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Thu, 24 November 2005 07:57
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Commonwhores! All models!
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Location:
new castle
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July 2005
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Re: lemons
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Thu, 24 November 2005 08:05
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the nissan EXA got voted in the top10 worst cars ever.
excells arent to bad i have an 86 excell as my daily driver. only prob we've ever had with it is replacing coolant pump and thats it. still chugging along almost at 200,000ks
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Location:
melbourne
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August 2005
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Re: lemons
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Thu, 24 November 2005 08:41
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lada niva
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Brisbane
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February 2003
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Re: lemons
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Thu, 24 November 2005 09:06
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anything british
and particularly anything using lucas electrical hardware
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Re: lemons
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Thu, 24 November 2005 09:14
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mitsubishi cordia/starion.
great when they work, but they fall apart ALL the time
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Land of Oz
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June 2004
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Re: lemons
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Thu, 24 November 2005 09:49
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Hi,
The Leyland P76 (god knows how it got to be COTY, except it reinforced my opinion that Wheels magazine is crap), the Tasman Kimberly, Marina, Ford Landau and the Datsun 200SX wasn't real good either.
seeyuzz
river
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Re: lemons
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Thu, 24 November 2005 09:53
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| river wrote on Thu, 24 November 2005 19:49 |
Ford Landau
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No waaay  Whhhhyy?
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Sydney/Wollongong
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October 2003
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Re: lemons
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Thu, 24 November 2005 13:56
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On a Toyota note the first series of the SV21 Camry has a pretty poor reputation...
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Location:
Brisbane
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February 2003
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Re: lemons
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Thu, 24 November 2005 14:21
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| Cool1 wrote on Thu, 24 November 2005 19:53 |
| river wrote on Thu, 24 November 2005 19:49 |
Ford Landau
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No waaay Whhhhyy?
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2 tonnes of rust held together with chrome and a vinyl roof?
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Re: lemons
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Thu, 24 November 2005 14:55
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yeah i thought the hyundais woulda been a bit shit but been lookin at a few commos recently most of them have high k's like in the mid 300,000's i think with the commonwhore its jsut little thing that fuck up on them kinda like poor construction but not of the engine. (im still not gonna get one tho  ) but i didnt know of the sv21 one being dodgy hmmmm muct be the apollo thing huh 
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Kita-Ku, Sapporo, Japan
Registered:
January 2003
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Re: lemons
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Thu, 24 November 2005 15:23
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it's funny that the lemons are good donor cars...
camiras for ignition modules, ECU and other general electronic bits, lada niva for good bosch igniter... hyundai excel for nice ignition coils......
we need more donor cars dammit
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Re: lemons
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Thu, 24 November 2005 21:18
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| thechuckster wrote on Fri, 25 November 2005 00:21 |
| Cool1 wrote on Thu, 24 November 2005 19:53 |
| river wrote on Thu, 24 November 2005 19:49 |
Ford Landau
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No waaay Whhhhyy?
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2 tonnes of rust held together with chrome and a vinyl roof?
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When I was shopping around for one I didnt find any rust in the ones I looked at But then I didnt go look at the ones that said they were parked down the back paddok under a tree.
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Land of Oz
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June 2004
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Re: lemons
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Thu, 24 November 2005 21:49
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Hi,
Yeah the Landaus (he had two) my dad had were crap. The engines and gearbox were fine but the body work, power windows, air con and all those little things were forever breaking and giving us trouble. And they rusted bad, especially around the fenders and under the rear taillight area.
He then went and bought a 770 Charger. That was a nice car, but he always regretted selling the Kombi - especially after mum painted flowers all over it and made it look special.
seeyuzz
river
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Re: lemons
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Thu, 24 November 2005 22:43
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anything 7M powered
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Re: lemons
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Thu, 24 November 2005 22:49
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I have heard AE86 sprinters are lemons, can't remeber who told me that though? Maybe I read it on this forum? Apparently they were the only dud corolla ever made.
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Re: lemons
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Thu, 24 November 2005 22:52
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| ke382TG wrote on Fri, 25 November 2005 08:49 |
I have heard AE86 sprinters are lemons, can't remeber who told me that though? Maybe I read it on this forum? Apparently they were the only dud corolla ever made.
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I heard the same
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Re: lemons
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Thu, 24 November 2005 23:02
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| ke382TG wrote on Fri, 25 November 2005 08:49 |
I have heard AE86 sprinters are lemons, can't remeber who told me that though? Maybe I read it on this forum? Apparently they were the only dud corolla ever made.
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After doing some quick research, I have found that its actually the drivers behind the wheel of the AE86 that are the lemons!
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Baulko Hillo
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April 2004
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Re: lemons
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Thu, 24 November 2005 23:06
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I can't beleive nobody's mentioned the Ford Capri yet. It was even on current affairs shows because it was so fucking bad.
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Re: lemons
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Thu, 24 November 2005 23:07
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After doing some quick research, I have found that its actually the drivers behind the wheel of the AE86 that are the lemons!
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Arhh. That sounds more like it.
So in summary the 8-6 = a little gem and the 8-6 owner = teh suck
Glad we cleared that up, I would hate to see the price of sprinters drop down close to their actual value.
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Re: lemons
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Thu, 24 November 2005 23:12
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I can't beleive nobody's mentioned the Ford Capri yet. It was even on current affairs shows because it was so fucking bad.
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Yeah true, I remember that years ago, leaking soft tops, shit house chassis rigidity, crap quality all round etc.
They are popular now though for young fags around these parts because they are cheap and for some reason these pretty boys think that cruising around with your pretty boy mate looking like a pair of homosexuals in your capri convertible with cheap chrome 17's will pull da laydies....
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Campbelltown
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November 2003
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Re: lemons
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Thu, 24 November 2005 23:25
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New MG convertibles leak like fucking seeves.
Most falcadores etc, Hyundai's, anything korean for that matter. And as above go british electrical systems. Ford Ka's fucking death trap on wheels.
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melbourne
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February 2005
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Re: lemons
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Thu, 24 November 2005 23:34
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i thought it was spoontahss... that were teh dodge?
ive heard that the older alfas and bmws and stuff are good but a shit when things brake down as there a fuck load to get repaired or get a new part.
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Campbelltown
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Re: lemons
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Thu, 24 November 2005 23:44
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alfa's meh the old ones didn't last long enough to need to be repaired, they were a pile of brown dust on the ground well before then. 
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Canberra
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September 2005
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Re: lemons
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Thu, 24 November 2005 23:55
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| Corona RT142 wrote on Fri, 25 November 2005 10:44 |
alfa's meh the old ones didn't last long enough to need to be repaired, they were a pile of brown dust on the ground well before then.
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PUT IT IN YOUR MOUTH RONA
I work on as many old as i do new, and its the late model one's that
are fucked, the one's made under fiat ownership, and alfetta's and guilietta's(poo in the bum)
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eastern suburbs, melbourne
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March 2005
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Re: lemons
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Fri, 25 November 2005 00:04
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the delorian was a lemon.
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Campbelltown
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November 2003
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Re: lemons
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Fri, 25 November 2005 00:08
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| beige_bandit wrote on Fri, 25 November 2005 10:55 |
| Corona RT142 wrote on Fri, 25 November 2005 10:44 |
alfa's meh the old ones didn't last long enough to need to be repaired, they were a pile of brown dust on the ground well before then.
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PUT IT IN YOUR MOUTH RONA
I work on as many old as i do new, and its the late model one's that
are fucked, the one's made under fiat ownership, and alfetta's and guilietta's(poo in the bum)
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I was refferring to the early 80's alfa's being rust buckets which they are.
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Re: lemons
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Fri, 25 November 2005 00:08
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the delorian was a lemon.
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O Rly!
It's the ONLY car I know of capable of time travel!
Oh actually any car that gets on the Spirit of Tasmania is capable of travel back to 1995 as it heads south It then returns to 2005 on it's northerly trip
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Canberra
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December 2002
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Location:
Canberra
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September 2005
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Re: lemons
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Fri, 25 November 2005 00:15
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| Corona RT142 wrote on Fri, 25 November 2005 11:08 |
| beige_bandit wrote on Fri, 25 November 2005 10:55 |
| Corona RT142 wrote on Fri, 25 November 2005 10:44 |
alfa's meh the old ones didn't last long enough to need to be repaired, they were a pile of brown dust on the ground well before then.
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PUT IT IN YOUR MOUTH RONA
I work on as many old as i do new, and its the late model one's that
are fucked, the one's made under fiat ownership, and alfetta's and guilietta's(poo in the bum)
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I was refferring to the early 80's alfa's being rust buckets which they are.
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I agree that SOME alfa's have serious rust problem's but then so does every car if you dont be careful of where you park, if its a coastal vehicle or inland vehicle, any car can rust!
You havnt seen a rust bucket till you,ve seen a neglected british
vehicle
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Campbelltown
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November 2003
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Re: lemons
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Fri, 25 November 2005 00:15
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Gen 3 powered commonwhores, mates parents bought a VX Series 2 SS brand new, next week it was back in getting new pistons etc. 
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Colac, Victoria
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May 2002
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Re: lemons
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Fri, 25 November 2005 00:22
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| ke382TG wrote on Fri, 25 November 2005 11:08 |
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the delorian was a lemon.
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O Rly!
It's the ONLY car I know of capable of time travel!
Oh actually any car that gets on the Spirit of Tasmania is capable of travel back to 1995 as it heads south It then returns to 2005 on it's northerly trip
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best quote of the day!
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Re: lemons
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Fri, 25 November 2005 00:36
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I can't believe nobody has mentioned the Ford Pinto.
Now THAT's a car with a sworded history!
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Canberra
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July 2005
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Re: lemons
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Fri, 25 November 2005 01:23
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Hmmmm... Modern Capri's were a failure in every way, but I actually don't mind some of the really old capris. As for Fiats and alfas, they are lurvely cars (the old ones at least), but the gearboxes are cantankerous in a few models...
oldcorollas, I had actually noticed that spiffy bosch ignitor under the bonnet of larry (MY Lada). The multipoint EFI Ladas actually had an air of sophistication about them, although still massively underpowered. Neglecting the factory installed drivetrain vibration (fixable with a CV installed in the intermediate drive shaft) and the very VERY dodgy electrics, Niva's were actually on a pedestal with range rovers and the Jensen interceptor as one of the first vehicles with a full time AWD system... Shame they stuck with the same design from the late 1960's through to 1997!
Another dodgy car in terms of build quality seems to be the AU Falcon.
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melbourne
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August 2005
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Re: lemons
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Fri, 25 November 2005 01:52
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what about the go go mobile???!!!
i remember reading an article recently on the worst cars of all time. the go go mobile was fairly close to the top.
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melbourne
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August 2005
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Re: lemons
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Fri, 25 November 2005 01:58
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got this off www.forbes.com
worst ever cars (usa i guess)
AMC Pacer (1975-80)
Chevrolet Vega (1970-74)
Citroen SM (1970-72)
Fiat Strada (1978-88)
Ford Bronco II (1983-89)
Ford Edsel (1957-59)
Ford Pinto (1971-80)
Honda Accord hatchback (1978)
Mazda RX-2 (1971)
Oldsmobile Delta 88 (1979-84)
Pontiac Fiero (1984)
Renault Dauphine (1956-68)
Sachsenring Trabant (1957-62)
Yugo GV (1981-91)
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sydney
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January 2005
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Re: lemons
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Fri, 25 November 2005 03:51
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I heard that alfas from around the 80's were rust buckets because they were brought out as deck cargo. As for other lemons my dads pajero has an array of problems leaking sunroof etc he even ended up getting sand in the gearbox. haha
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Re: lemons
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Fri, 25 November 2005 04:02
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he even ended up getting sand in the box.
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Sand in your box  that would be a gritty old ride
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Perth
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October 2003
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Re: lemons
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Fri, 25 November 2005 04:17
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My personal experience Mazda 929 (87 - 91) I think and the EA Falcon.
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November 2002
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Re: lemons
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Fri, 25 November 2005 04:43
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FC3S Mazda RX7.. cheap electricals.. expermintal rotary engine... Body dint's sooo easy..
But man, you gotta love em. 
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Re: lemons
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Fri, 25 November 2005 04:47
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| h3ff44 wrote on Fri, 25 November 2005 10:34 |
i thought it was spoontahss... that were teh dodge?
ive heard that the older alfas and bmws and stuff are good but a shit when things brake down as there a fuck load to get repaired or get a new part.
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yeah ive been told from a mates, mate that apparently the side mirror on a beamer to replace brand new from BMW is something like $1000 and that second hand
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ghetto area 2745
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Re: lemons
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Fri, 25 November 2005 04:51
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the delorean could also fly
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Fri, 25 November 2005 05:00
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Holden calibra a mate had one and said it was a nightmare.
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September 2005
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Re: lemons
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Fri, 25 November 2005 05:09
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The rust problems alfa had were mainly due to the cheap scrap metal
they purchased from the russia
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Fri, 25 November 2005 05:45
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| beige_bandit wrote on Fri, 25 November 2005 15:39 |
The rust problems alfa had were mainly due to the cheap scrap metal
they purchased from the russia
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True, they were rusting in the plant whilst being built. But the electrical problems are true italian engineering!!
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Wollongong
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May 2002
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Re: lemons
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Fri, 25 November 2005 06:43
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Ford F6 Typhoon.
Ever single one sold was recalled for a full engine rebuild, taking upwards of 6 months for people to get their vehicles back. Kinda serves them right for releasing a car which wasn't tested properly to begin with. Dodgy diffs, boxes and engines... what a combo!
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Re: lemons
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Sat, 26 November 2005 01:40
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fuck I want a delorian 
the V8 manual version tho
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Central Coast, NSW
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February 2005
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Re: lemons
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Sat, 26 November 2005 01:43
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You wouldn't drift it, would you?
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Re: lemons
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Sat, 26 November 2005 01:46
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unlikely
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July 2005
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Sat, 26 November 2005 03:18
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delorean - Drifting while time travelling
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Sat, 26 November 2005 04:09
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and then if u stacked it u could just fly to safety mwhahahaha
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Campbelltown
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November 2003
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Re: lemons
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Sat, 26 November 2005 08:33
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| corona crew wrote on Sat, 26 November 2005 15:09 |
and then if u stacked it u could just fly to safety mwhahahaha
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no you'd go back in time to before it happened and then not crash
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ghetto area 2745
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Gosford
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May 2005
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Land of Oz
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Re: lemons
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Sat, 26 November 2005 10:44
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Hi,
The rust in the Landau wasn't severe, but it was everpresent. The biggest problem was the interior trim - things would fall off and switches wouldn't work. I liked the car though, it looked big and tough and it cruised along beautifully.
As for the Capris.... I only liked the old ones. If I had the time, money and space I wouldn't mind getting an old V6 Capri and restoring it back to original.
seeyuzz
river
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Nowra
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October 2005
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Re: lemons
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Mon, 28 November 2005 01:51
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| river wrote on Thu, 24 November 2005 20:49 |
Hi,
The Leyland P76 (god knows how it got to be COTY, except it reinforced my opinion that Wheels magazine is crap)...
river
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Ah but it was the V8 Leyland P76 that won, not the straight 6! Small but significant detail. And the annual Lemon trophy(ies) is(are) actually modelled on the P76!
Commo's are ok except for the Starfire 4 (which was the 6 with 2 cylinders lopped off). Also made it's way into Toyota Corona's(???).
F6 Typhoon was a clutch problem, and a problem that only took millions of dollars of time testing to find out why. 3 little clips broke under certain conditions only present with the turbo 6, which prompted worldwide support for a new design in twin-plate clutches. Engine probs hear nothing about.
My contributions: XL - XM Falcon. Straight import from US meant it's front end collapsed all over the place 'cause it couldn't handle harsh Aussie conditions yet Aussie designed & engineered Holden's just kept soldiering on.
Anything that's Series I from Holden & Ford. EA Falcon, VN Commodore. AU Series I brakes were shite, broke down on cops all the time.
That's all I can think of for now...
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London
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July 2004
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Re: lemons
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Tue, 29 November 2005 02:02
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I once inherited a starfire corona from my great aunt! 
I can testify that it accelerated, cornered and sounded like a mule with terminal larengitis.
Couln't get rid of that pile of shit quick enough
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bet you didnt know that