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Re: The Cricket or Van Nygen Execution????
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Wed, 30 November 2005 08:07
 
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dam stright, he is just another drug smuggler... infact i want 500kb of my bandwidth back for having to post a replys
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Liverpool
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Wed, 30 November 2005 08:27
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| Malicia wrote on Tue, 29 November 2005 22:23 |
Tell me who are the SCUM of society?
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Stick your moral crusade up your arse dickhead.
This clown committed a crime in a country that uses capital punishment. He knew that before he started. You nor anyone else will change that with your whining and whinging.
Let the cunt swing. I hope they swing any other westerner that is stupid enough to do it. All they are doing is feeding the scurge in this country that is heroin addiction. The less of them the better.
Greg.
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Wed, 30 November 2005 09:39
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Say all you like about the 25,000 hits it would have caused, but we are talking about what DID actually happen.
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So if they didn't have their attitude toward a criminal offence that DID HAPPEN, what the fuck do you think would happen?
Drugs fed to junkies in wherever. Junkie fed on heroin breaks into your car and rips off fully hektik dorifto subz and you'll post crying about it.
Get a six foot mirror, some viagra eyedrops and take a good hard look at yourself.
Not that it'll probably make a difference. And for the record I too have never taken or even tried any illegal drugs but I've straightened out a few others who have. In fact ask people about the shit I give smokers let alone junkies.
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Bankstown
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Wed, 30 November 2005 09:56
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I feel sorry for his mum and sisters. They are probably going to feel more pain from is death then himself dying. Its like knowing that something bad is going to happen and there’s nothing you can do about it.
It saddens me that people can be this cold, and I though animals only existed in zoo's.
Well I hope that people who judge him will be judged.
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Tasmania
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June 2005
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Wed, 30 November 2005 11:21
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WEll im not sure about the excutution, but as for the minute of sclicence what a load of crap.
I will pay 1 minute of sclience of our aussie diggers that have died for our country. To take a minute of sclience for 1 person that has comitted a crime is so desrespectiful.
This guy has comitted a crime and has to pay for it. Thats the way it is. He knew what what he was doing and the consquences and now he is being forced with them. In my opinoin he doesent diserve and sympathy whatsoever.
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Wed, 30 November 2005 12:23
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| no_tofu_speed wrote on Tue, 29 November 2005 17:20 |
But though it is their right I do think it is a bit rude that so many high officials formone walk of life or another have requested leniency and they have told them to get stuffed.... I guess mainly because they want to put on a lil show to scare others.
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Actually it's not rude at all. Firstly I can't stress enough but this is not a new trend that emerged in the last couple of weeks. It's been this way for a long time. He knew the consequences and he did it.
Secondly, what one of the officials (think it might've been the president/pm said was 'How are we supposed to face our own people who we have executed in the past if we do not spare them and instead spare the life of a foreigner'. It's true. What is the PM/President of Singapore supposed to do? Is he supposed to break the rules? Is he supposed to break the rules for a drug trafficker? Is he supposed to break the rules for a foreign drug trafficker?
| no_tofu_speed wrote on Tue, 29 November 2005 17:20 |
But I do think it is screwed that Indonesia wants to give foreigners life sentences or death for drugs, small or large quantities. But domestic terrorists especially the ring leader/activist they give a slap on the wrist.
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Well Michelle Leslie got a few months for her small quantity so that's not a life sentence and from memory Amrosi is going to get either life or the death penalty. That's hardly a slap on the wrist.
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South Australia
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July 2002
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Wed, 30 November 2005 14:52
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I just can't wait for it to be over so finally the media stops putting his face on the front page and calling it 'news' - and then they can go talk some other shit up.
I really, truly, couldn't give a crap about him. For sure if it were someone i knew, i'd be extremely disappointed, angry, fearful and sad to see them go, but i don't think i'd be protesting about it. Some things *have* to be accepted in life, and one of those things is the law, and you have to accept the risks involved when you bend the laws. It's up to his family and friends to deal and grieve with this situation.... it's (edit) not (/edit) up to the whole country to do so.
I think that any form of punishment is kinda stupid (capital, corporal or just plain old incarceration) because it's all just a shitty band-aid solution. All the jail, maiming and killing hasn't stopped more criminals from filling the void, and it's about time better and more future-proof solutions were found.
[Updated on: Wed, 30 November 2005 14:53]
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Thu, 01 December 2005 03:14
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I think that any form of punishment is kinda stupid (capital, corporal or just plain old incarceration) because it's all just a shitty band-aid solution. All the jail, maiming and killing hasn't stopped more criminals from filling the void, and it's about time better and more future-proof solutions were found
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i agree with RWDboy,
i see it as being like training a dog. if all you ever do is hit the dog when it does something wrong, its just going to turn nasty. in order to train a well behaved dog you need to also reward it when it is good, and that is the part that is missing when it comes to preventing crime.
its the same on the roads. fining people for speeding doesnt make them better drivers, it just makes them hate the rta/cops.
sorry for getting a little OT towards the end there.
chris
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cambo
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Thu, 01 December 2005 05:55
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| mynameisrodney wrote on Thu, 01 December 2005 14:14 |
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I think that any form of punishment is kinda stupid (capital, corporal or just plain old incarceration) because it's all just a shitty band-aid solution. All the jail, maiming and killing hasn't stopped more criminals from filling the void, and it's about time better and more future-proof solutions were found
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i agree with RWDboy,
i see it as being like training a dog. if all you ever do is hit the dog when it does something wrong, its just going to turn nasty. in order to train a well behaved dog you need to also reward it when it is good, and that is the part that is missing when it comes to preventing crime.
its the same on the roads. fining people for speeding doesnt make them better drivers, it just makes them hate the rta/cops.
sorry for getting a little OT towards the end there.
chris
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how can you compare crime to training a dog?
no, fining speeders doesnt make them better drivers, but it usually slows them down. should we reward people that dont speed? should we reward people who dont smuggle drugs?
i wanna know something, all you guys protesting this, which part specifically do you have a problem with? is it THIS guy getting the death penalty? or is it the death penalty in general?
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Campbelltown
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Thu, 01 December 2005 06:09
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Do I smoke no, do I drink rarely  so I guess I am free to say what I want then 
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Thu, 01 December 2005 06:19
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| Corona RT142 wrote on Thu, 01 December 2005 17:09 |
Do I smoke no, do I drink rarely so I guess I am free to say what I want then
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No, but your naturally stupid.
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Thu, 01 December 2005 06:23
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Hmmm my uni results and job tend to argue with you there, and no I don't take drugs.
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Re: The Cricket or Van Nygen Execution????
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Thu, 01 December 2005 06:31
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| SR20 trueno wrote on Thu, 01 December 2005 17:07 |
And all of you how who say shit about drug users and junkies fucking shit up... the 2 drugs that cause the most deaths and problems are cigarettes and alcohol.
daniel
EVOSTi... iam against it in general not because of this guy
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It doesn’t matter what drugs can cause death, the people that are taking drugs are just much has fault has the people that are selling.
See heroin wont kill you if you don’t take it. Also selling drugs isn't exactly like killing someone or flying a plain to a building.
I have heard of corporate crimes of people getting away with 3 times more than that.
This reminds me a lot of the movie called "blown", even in America you don’t get death for drugs.
If he was not transporting that quantity of drugs, someone else would.
When you really really want something (that is un-ethical)you take risks without thinking of the consequences.
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Re: The Cricket or Van Nygen Execution????
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Thu, 01 December 2005 08:16
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| EVOSTi wrote on Thu, 01 December 2005 16:55 |
how can you compare crime to training a dog?
no, fining speeders doesnt make them better drivers, but it usually slows them down. should we reward people that dont speed? should we reward people who dont smuggle drugs?
i wanna know something, all you guys protesting this, which part specifically do you have a problem with? is it THIS guy getting the death penalty? or is it the death penalty in general?
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i think we SHOULD reward good drivers as well as punishing bad ones.
my comparison is valid because even if you dont like to believe, human beings respond to punishments/rewards in much the same ways as animals.
i am now going to make an extemely broad generalisation, which while not always true, still holds a lot of the time.
take 3 kids
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punished when bad +
not rewarded when good =
adult who is generally angry/disrespectful toards authority figures.
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not punished when bad +
rewarded when good =
adult who thinks they can/should always get their own way.
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punished when bad +
rewarded when good =
generally well balanced person.
i used kids as the example because generally events in childhood make more of an impact to a persons views, but the situations still hold for adults (and for training animals).
also i never said i was against the death penalty. i was just commenting on another issue raised earlier in the thread.
all those people who say "but what if it was your brother" etc.
you need to get a hold on reality. do you seriously think a justice system would work if all criminals were treated as family members? i would not what my brother killed even if he did deserve it. but that doesn't mean that it's not the right thing to do.
to make a fair and impartial decision you need to distance yourself from personal attatchments, not bring them closer.
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Re: The Cricket or Van Nygen Execution????
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Thu, 01 December 2005 09:15
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[quote title=mynameisrodney wrote on Thu, 01 December 2005 19:16
all those people who say "but what if it was your brother" etc.
you need to get a hold on reality. do you seriously think a justice system would work if all criminals were treated as family members? i would not what my brother killed even if he did deserve it. but that doesn't mean that it's not the right thing to do.
to make a fair and impartial decision you need to distance yourself from personal attatchments, not bring them closer.[/quote]
true but would you ever think your brother deserved to die... over anything. how can killing someone ever be the right thing to do.
to make a fair and impartial decision requires a person to draw on their own personal thoughts and experiences. otherwise how do you decide whats fair and not.
daniel
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Thu, 01 December 2005 09:52
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family members opinions are most often irrelevant. If that had any bearing, how often do you think you'd hear "We know you're really a very good kid who just made one mistake/fell in with the wrong crew/love your family/etc etc etc". This is why a judge makes an impartial decision. And in Singapore the appropriate punishment for the crime happens to be death.
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Re: The Cricket or Van Nygen Execution????
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Thu, 01 December 2005 11:08
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| SR20 trueno wrote on Thu, 01 December 2005 16:35 |
Hi_Ace... do you believe the shit you type 
you would encourge someone to kill one of your family members for a crime
iam not going to protest or anything coz its a waste of time but i still thinks its fucked up
daniel
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Sorry Daniel, um what part of what I type are you asking about. Just so I know what to comment on.
But, if the penalty for the crime they committed was the death penalty then I would go along with it.
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Re: The Cricket or Van Nygen Execution????
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Thu, 01 December 2005 11:47
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hang him twice! then piss on his lifeless body and drag it thru the streets as a sign to all the other people fucking up this world
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Re: The Cricket or Van Nygen Execution????
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Thu, 01 December 2005 12:29
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Upon entering a foreign country, one must respect their customs, culture and LAWS.
This is the very reason why little Johnny need not interfere and tell other countries how to run their justice systems, just because it isn't similar to the Australian ideal.
If you dislike or disagree with these countries customs and ideals, DON'T GO THERE! And you will never have a problem with the consequences.
Anyways...
Swing looooooow sweeeeeet charrrrrrrriot....
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November 2005
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Re: The Cricket or Van Nygen Execution????
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Thu, 01 December 2005 12:58
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In my opinion every high school child in Australia should be made to watch the execution (probably a long shot no need to be too graphic) snd discuss it afterwards
Personally I hate cricket, but if it shows some kind of disrespect for this wasted life form then ill watch all day.
I always wanted a "smutty prints" "swingaway club pudu" chambers and barlowe souvinere T shirt anybody got one going cheap?
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Re: The Cricket or Van Nygen Execution????
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Thu, 01 December 2005 13:04
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Build a bridge and get over it. Monday morning something else will be news.
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I Supported Toymods
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Re: The Cricket or Van Nygen Execution????
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Thu, 01 December 2005 21:07
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[quote title=SR20 trueno wrote on Thu, 01 December 2005 22:55]| Hi-Ace wrote on Tue, 29 November 2005 09:33 |
| bathurst-91 wrote on Tue, 29 November 2005 09:14 |
But I for one would like to see the death penalty brought in here for this crime. Yes, if it was my son/daughter or brother/sister I would still say the same thing.
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thats the BS i was talking bout hi-ace
cheers
danniel
sorry i couldnt find it when i first posted
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Sorry Danniel, but I did say "You are entitled to your opinion as is everyone, and I respect that." earlier.
And I am entitled to mine, therefore I stand by my earlier statment.
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| clubagreenie wrote on Fri, 02 December 2005 00:04 |
Build a bridge and get over it. Monday morning something else will be news.
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I agree.
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Re: The Cricket or Van Nygen Execution????
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Thu, 01 December 2005 21:53
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Update: Swings in 5
cheers
chris
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Re: The Cricket or Van Nygen Execution????
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Thu, 01 December 2005 23:17
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hi-ace i think if it were your family member
you would be complaining... unless you dont like your
family. either way he will be hanged. i just disagree
with the death penalty. it doesnt matter what nationality
you are i dont belive anyone should be put to death
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Re: The Cricket or Van Nygen Execution????
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Thu, 01 December 2005 23:36
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in a place thats over populated with mainly poor people, illigal dealing would be pretty high (get rich quick)... so the death penalty is nothing... maybe in australia its a big deal but they dont have it as good as we do
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Fri, 02 December 2005 00:17
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EXACTLY amen
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Re: The Cricket or Van Nygen Execution????
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Fri, 02 December 2005 00:37
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well he's finally dead. there'll be a HUGE sob story about it on tonight's news, then tomorrow we may finally stop being over-exposed to this.
Until those 2 dudes in vietnam go to stand in front of the firing squad (more idiots trafficking heroin in countries with a death penalty)
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Fri, 02 December 2005 00:40
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Can't wait till the Bali Nine fuck , Van Nyugen is the first since 1993 when some guy in Malaysia was executed.
Potential to have a few more on our hands in the next 12 months ain't the news gonna be great.
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Fri, 02 December 2005 00:42
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OK the poor bastard is dead.
Juts leave it alone FFS.
What a pethetic waste of space thread. 
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Re: The Cricket or Van Nygen Execution????
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Fri, 02 December 2005 00:57
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Got this from Wikipedia:
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Throughout his trial, Nguyen claimed that he was only carrying the drugs in a bid to pay off debts owed by his twin brother, Khoa (a former heroin addict), who had borrowed around AU$25,000 to help defend himself against drugs and violent offences charges three years previously.
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Insert multiple shaking head emoticons here.
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Fri, 02 December 2005 01:21
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Fri, 02 December 2005 01:21
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He's a swinger now.....
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Re: The Cricket or Van Nygen Execution????
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Fri, 02 December 2005 01:31
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haha nice , cant wait to hear some jokes about this
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Re: The Cricket or Van Nygen Execution????
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Fri, 02 December 2005 01:55
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| Tats,Dec 2 2005, 11:50 AM |
My workmate's sense of humour at 9:20am AEDT...... "He'd be a chandelier by now wouldn't he?"
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| ainzmac,Dec 2 2005, 12:05 PM |
I got a text message Last night "Hi mum, won't be home for Xmas, hanging around Singapore love Van Nguyen"
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I don't agree with making jokes about it but anyway
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Fri, 02 December 2005 02:02
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yeah i heard that hanging around one like 4 times here today at work already
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I Supported Toymods
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Re: The Cricket or Van Nygen Execution????
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Fri, 02 December 2005 02:09
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| SR20 trueno wrote on Fri, 02 December 2005 10:17 |
hi-ace i think if it were your family member
you would be complaining... unless you dont like your
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Danniel, If you have read all my post on this topic you would not say that. It's that, that gives me my thoughts on this matter.
And just as a side note, I don't believe in making jokes about it.
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Re: The Cricket or Van Nygen Execution????
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Fri, 02 December 2005 09:52
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yes OK we all had a  now is over....
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