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Brisbane, QLD
Registered:
August 2005
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3SGE Generation Differences.
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Sun, 04 December 2005 02:20
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G'day.. i searched but didnt find the goods..
i would really appreciate it if someone could tell me what exactly is different between the Generation 1 3SGE and the Gen2.. (like.. where'd they get the extra kW  )
i understand the block and intake manifold are the same... just wanting to know what else.
Cheers,
Greg.
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Location:
new castle
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July 2005
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Re: 3SGE Generation Differences.
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Sun, 04 December 2005 03:57
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been covered heaps this topic...use ye old "search" button up top right corner
there was a slight KW differnce, stronger, crank, rod and bearings to stop the #1 big end going so easyily.
something about oil squiters aswell not 100% sure.
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Location:
Sweden
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June 2005
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Re: 3SGE Generation Differences.
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Sun, 04 December 2005 13:02
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Intake manifolds are not at all the same on the GE.
Gen1 is the old T-VIS 143hp that was in the ST162. Gen2 is the 156hp engine with ACIS instead of T-VIS, and here in Sweden it has the oil squirters under the pistons.
(Gen1 and 2 GTE both have T-VIS intakes, but not gen2 GE)
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Location:
Vancouver
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June 2004
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Re: 3SGE Generation Differences.
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Mon, 05 December 2005 23:06
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My own Gen2 3S-GE does NOT have factory installed oil nozzles in the crankcase
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Location:
Sweden
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June 2005
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Re: 3SGE Generation Differences.
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Mon, 05 December 2005 23:19
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All of the 3sge equipped cars sold in europe seem to have them according to the EPC.
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Location:
Perth
Registered:
October 2004
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Re: 3SGE Generation Differences.
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Tue, 06 December 2005 02:09
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Heavily revised intake, higher compression ratio and higher revving are all responsible for the power gains. Even larger than the peak power gains though are the torque gains, 30% more torque at 400 less rpm!
Gen 2
165hp / 6800 rpm
19.5 kg*m / 4800 rpm
Gen 1
137hp /6600 rpm
15.2 kg*m / 5200 rpm
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Location:
Shepparton
Registered:
August 2003
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Re: 3SGE Generation Differences.
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Tue, 06 December 2005 02:22
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what comp does the gen2 have, i have heard 10.2 and another told me 10.5 . Which is true, does it depend if it was a celica or MR2 gen2 engine??
Trav
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