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May 2002
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AUTO ELECTRICIAN NEEDED A.S.A.P - STARTER MOTOR & S/M CIRCUIT NOT WORKING!!!
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Tue, 21 January 2003 08:52
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OK, to prevent me putting a match to the car i need an auto elec. to have a look at it.
1) The car had been starting and running A1 for a week, up until Saturday night when a mate dropped over so we could sort out some things with the laptop. Went to start it....nothing. Could hear the S/M almost just turnover, and the solenoid doing its usual noise. I thought this very strange as i had been stopping and starting it all afternoon to c if the fans were working properly, which they were.
2) By sunday arvo, it got to the point where you could only hear the starter relay clicking, and by late sunday arvo evn the relay wasnt making any noise!! I was starting to get pissed off......
3) I got my hands on another S/M and installed it on monday arvo. For the 1st few trys it too had nothing...then all of a sudden it started working!!! Fuckin good i thought......then it stopped again.......
4)- The battery is brand new and has a CCA of 550amps, so i ruled it out.
- I tried another starter relay, and it made no difference.
- I bypased the alarm immobiliser for the S/M, still nothing.
- I put an extra earth strap on the car, no difference
- I tried to fire up the S/M by looping from the battery strait to the solenoid (no relay or key switch), the solenoid chattered for a bit then nothing again.
- I tried jump starting the car thinking the batery mite be low on charge, still nothing.
- There is continuity between the + terminal on the battery and the chassis of the car. I thought this strange BUT a mates almost new work van also has continuity in the same way.
- The oil pressure gauge is doing some wierd shit. It only started happening when the starter problem arose
- The starter circuit is completely separate from any other circuit
If this doesnt get fixed, i WILL burn the car.....i am at breaking point.....i have quadrouple checked everything and to no availe. I have had many problems with cars before, and this is proving to be the most difficult to overcome.
If anyone can help, call me on 0413131826. I am DEFINATELY willing to pay for it.....
Please
Phill
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Berowra-Sydney
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July 2002
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Re: AUTO ELECTRICIAN NEEDED A.S.A.P - STARTER MOTOR & S/M CIRCUIT NOT WORKING!!!
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Tue, 21 January 2003 09:17
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Check the battery terminals, give them a hit with a hammer or remove then and clean, sounds like its got a faulty connection causing it to not be able to get enough current through as when a starter motor runs it uses hundreds of Amps, is it manual? then try and push start it, or roll it down a hill and clutch it, that way you will know its an electrical fault in the starter motor set up, follow every wire that comes off the starter motor and make sure it has a good connection, it sounds like its a problem with the main current flow to the starter, once again check battery leads, few good wacks to the terminals could fix the problem and check all EARTHS!!!!!
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Sydney
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May 2002
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Re: AUTO ELECTRICIAN NEEDED A.S.A.P - STARTER MOTOR & S/M CIRCUIT NOT WORKING!!!
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Tue, 21 January 2003 09:44
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shit.. gin51e he said he tried it dirrectly from the battery.
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Terrigal
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May 2002
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Re: AUTO ELECTRICIAN NEEDED A.S.A.P - STARTER MOTOR & S/M CIRCUIT NOT WORKING!!!
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Tue, 21 January 2003 10:13
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Probably wont help but I had a similar problem and it was the 12 +ve supply to the relay causing the problem, the power source for the relay was stolen from the coil and when cranking would drop down to 6v or so. Once I gave the relay a direct feed to battery all was good.. Wasted so much time and money on different starters/batteries/wiring etc..
Anyhows just an idea but you might have already tried/eliminated this!
Joel
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Sydney Australia
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May 2002
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Re: AUTO ELECTRICIAN NEEDED A.S.A.P - STARTER MOTOR & S/M CIRCUIT NOT WORKING!!!
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Wed, 22 January 2003 03:30
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i said... chuck it away... burn it.. and put a 1j in the next one! 
u sure you didn't just get a 2nd dud starter?? small chance but i wouldn't be supprised.
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May 2002
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Re: AUTO ELECTRICIAN NEEDED A.S.A.P - STARTER MOTOR & S/M CIRCUIT NOT WORKING!!!
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Wed, 22 January 2003 03:33
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something to try this arvo phil, try disconecting the oil pressure unit, as it is doing weird shit, eliminate it for now.
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 Re: AUTO ELECTRICIAN NEEDED A.S.A.P - STARTER MOTOR & S/M CIRCUIT NOT WORKING!!!
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Wed, 22 January 2003 09:35
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-"The oil pressure gauge is doing some wierd shit. It only started happening when the starter problem arose "
This proves you have an earth fault- heavy current unable to go direct from battery, going very indirectly through other wimpy circuits eg oil sender.
As a test get your black jumper cable, clamped onto say your alloy inlet manifold (or other real good motor connection), other end clamp onto Neg pole on battery. Try now.
Pedro
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Berowra-Sydney
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July 2002
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Re: AUTO ELECTRICIAN NEEDED A.S.A.P - STARTER MOTOR & S/M CIRCUIT NOT WORKING!!!
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Thu, 23 January 2003 09:45
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i had the same problem with my car once, battery voltage was fine everything in the car was fine but could get enough current to start the car, after spending an hour looking for the problem i though i would then check the most basic thing of all, got my old metal baseball bat and gave the battery terminals a few good wacks and bingo worked fine after that,
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Location:
Sydney Australia
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May 2002
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Re: AUTO ELECTRICIAN NEEDED A.S.A.P - STARTER MOTOR & S/M CIRCUIT NOT WORKING!!!
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Thu, 23 January 2003 13:28
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don't burn it without video taping it ok.
can i have the motec before u burn it too??
thanks  
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