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BlueRocket
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water injection Sun, 02 February 2003 12:15 Go to next message
has anyone heard of or seen water injection fitted to an engine. for those who dont know its where you squert water into the intake to cool down the incomming air. you can raise the compression and/or advance the timing. also the water forms steam and adds to cylinder pressure thereby increasing torque and power output, improving fuel consumption and efficiency.

i heard the McLarren F1 team were experimenting with it during the early 90's and were getting track records that remained unbroken but the f1 racing body banned it. (i could be wrong though. im not real sure)
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Re: water injection Sun, 02 February 2003 13:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
I havnt seen it with my own eyes, but i haved lots and lots of reports of poeple running it.
Infact i came across the web site of a guy who was running water injection with his 3S-GTE powered MR2. Had some quite good photos of his intallation.

Water injection is really quite a simple system... it doesnt take much to rig it up.
Although, to buy a proper automated high pressure system is very expensive.

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BlueRocket
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Re: water injection Mon, 03 February 2003 08:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Didn't realise they were available commercially.
do you still have the web site of that fella?
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Re: water injection Mon, 03 February 2003 12:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Well i just googled for "mr2 water injection" and found 2 sites... neither is the mr2 i was saying i saw before.
So must be a few around.

Aquamist i think is the more popular brand of water injection systems.

http://www.ipass.net/~jdennis/images/h2o/
http://www.members.aol.com/Markrogers54321/




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Re: water injection Mon, 03 February 2003 13:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
It's used quite a bit on aircraft, both piston & jet powered.
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Re: water injection Tue, 04 February 2003 03:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
BigWorm wrote on Mon, 03 February 2003 23:59

It's used quite a bit on aircraft, both piston & jet powered.


Yeh... was first discovered back in the WWII days.
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Re: water injection Tue, 04 February 2003 07:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Umm... Im not the expert on the subject or a rocket scientist but my older brothers VN ran water injection which he rigged up himself quite easily.. I dont know how effective it was but he experimented a lot with it using basic home supplies to professional performance parts. He had a CAPA stage 2 supercharger running on a vn 6 then a fully rebuilt and race spec'd vr 6 engine, kept in a sleeper blue VN S pack manual. He ran ~9 psi. He always used to be saying how hot damn blowers get or anything with forced induction.
Not sure nowadays i know a little more why he didnt run a fat front mount air-to-air cooler? I think it was about throttle response or something maybe, that car was a gun. The water cooling was a big difference tho over nothing, as the car had no scoops or light cutouts anything, just stock looking with 15" hub caps on mega yokos.

Ohwell now he has a 4 cylinder again how funnys that.. although turbo and 4 whl drive .. Wink

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Re: water injection Tue, 04 February 2003 13:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Some superchargers are integrated into the manifold, so it's not possible to use intercooling. This is often the case with V6's and V8's where the best place for the blower is in the valley (not much room anywhere else).
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Re: water injection Wed, 05 February 2003 04:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
A recent ZOOM artical about Ray Halls IS200 with a 2JZGTE uses it. He could not fit an intercooler so he uses water injection and runs 1-1.5 Bar boost without a hint of detonation. Its controlled by a top end ECU, Motec or Autronic I think.
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BlueRocket
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Re: water injection Thu, 06 February 2003 02:28 Go to previous message
i just descovered that some of the gas fired power stations use water injection. as well as greater efficiency and all that other stuff, it reduces the NoX levels and other crap from the emissions quite considerably. aparantly theres some "simple" mathematical equation that can prove it. mayby it could also be usefull for getting past emissions standards Cool
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