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Where to buy a W58 Mon, 03 February 2003 11:10 Go to next message
Anyone know of any importers that might have a w58 supra box for a reasonable price?
I rang the local importer today and they had one, but wanted $750 for it! This seems to be just a little pricey to me?

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Re: Where to buy a W58 Tue, 04 February 2003 05:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Have you tried:

http://www.japparts.com.au

750 does not seem to bad to me!!.... Confused
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Re: Where to buy a W58 Tue, 04 February 2003 06:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Japanese Gearbox Importers here in Melbourne recently put up their prices for these items to $695.
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Re: Where to buy a W58 Tue, 04 February 2003 06:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Hmmm. Is the gearbox off a 1GGE a W58? Rolling Eyes
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Re: Where to buy a W58 Tue, 04 February 2003 08:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Its most likely a W57, but as Rob has shown with his RA40, it could be a W58 also.
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Re: Where to buy a W58 Tue, 04 February 2003 08:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Can ya tell by what the car was?
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Re: Where to buy a W58 Tue, 04 February 2003 08:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Nope, depends, some came with either...
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Re: Where to buy a W58 Tue, 04 February 2003 09:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
dammm. The only way to tell if its the w58 is by the ratio and alloy sandwich plate?
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Re: Where to buy a W58 Tue, 04 February 2003 15:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Yeah, looks the same apart from that.

Those prices are cheap, you wanna know what a new one, the 93+ version costs?

AU$2526.23 plus freight Very Happy
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Re: Where to buy a W58 Wed, 05 February 2003 00:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
How do you know if you have a '93+ W58??
I have a W58 for my 1JZ. (it has a JZ series bellhousing)
I think it may be from a JZZ31 or a NA JZA80.
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Re: Where to buy a W58 Wed, 05 February 2003 00:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
If you do have one from a 2JZGE, then it would have to be from a 93+ model.
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Re: Where to buy a W58 Wed, 05 February 2003 01:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
E30-323ti wrote on Wed, 05 February 2003 11:31

How do you know if you have a '93+ W58??
I have a W58 for my 1JZ. (it has a JZ series bellhousing)
I think it may be from a JZZ31 or a NA JZA80.


The late W58 (93+) have a kooky looking gear selector extension doover that looks totally different to the earlier W5x boxes, ie the gear stick doesn't come out of the gear box, it hangs off the end of an extension.
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Re: Where to buy a W58 Wed, 05 February 2003 02:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
The big red fruit is correct. Here's a photo I took of the 93+ W58 shifter housing next to a "normal" shifter housing from a Mk2 Supra W58; as you can see they are vastly different (although interchangeable with some work):

http://www.norbie.net/Project2JZ/XMember2/medium_Trans5.jpg
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Re: Where to buy a W58 Wed, 05 February 2003 07:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
tomato is a fruit ?

is that like a peanut isnt a nut, its a legume` ?
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Re: Where to buy a W58 Wed, 05 February 2003 07:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
I dunno, all I know is a tomato is a fruit Razz
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Re: Where to buy a W58 Wed, 05 February 2003 07:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
have you ever seen at some grocery shops they sell tomato juice in the fruit juice section next to all the other juices

ever tried that shit ?, its like drinking tomato sauce they should invent meat pie juice then i will drink both those suckers together when footy season is back on
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Re: Where to buy a W58 Wed, 05 February 2003 07:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
If I remember back to Biology 101, tomatoes are actually classified as a berry, which strictly speaking is not a fruit. Don't ask me to define the difference - that was 16 years ago.
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Re: Where to buy a W58 Wed, 05 February 2003 08:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
well you can buy a w58 from me Very Happy
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Re: Where to buy a W58 Wed, 05 February 2003 09:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
I dont want to be involved in a bidding war! Wayne has already put his hand up for it!
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Re: Where to buy a W58 Wed, 05 February 2003 09:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
SSS Automotive had one for $1k, it was a 93+ model, only bellhousing and box
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Re: Where to buy a W58 Wed, 05 February 2003 09:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
jesus christ.
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Re: Where to buy a W58 Wed, 05 February 2003 14:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ok don't some of the RA6X's come with W58's? You could prbly buy a whole RA65 and part everything except the W58 and it would be much cheaper than $1K??

How do you tell the difference between a W57 and a W58, and also is there any difference between the W58 found in the Celicas and the W58 in the Supras (MK2's and MK3's with 7M-GE).

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Re: Where to buy a W58 Thu, 06 February 2003 00:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Early-model W58's can be had for much less than $1k, but the post-93 models are expensive because they usually come out of Mk4 Supras. It's the law of supply and demand; there are people like me who want a manual transmission for a JZ engine, but there aren't many available. Hence, the price goes up. FWIW I paid $850 for mine a few months ago.

Wilbo: the W58 has a steel sandwich plate, while all other W5x's have an alloy sandwich plate.
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icon1.gif  Re: Where to buy a W58 Thu, 06 February 2003 01:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
wilbo666 wrote on Thu, 06 February 2003 01:20

How do you tell the difference between a W57 and a W58,


Alloy sandwich plate.

wilbo666 wrote on Thu, 06 February 2003 01:20

and also is there any difference between the W58 found in the Celicas and the W58 in the Supras (MK2's and MK3's with 7M-GE).


Discussed above.

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Re: Where to buy a W58 Thu, 06 February 2003 01:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ok, so there is no differance in the ratios or the shifter position between the Celica W58 and a Supra W58?

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Re: Where to buy a W58 Thu, 06 February 2003 02:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
All W58's have the same ratios to my knowledge, but the shifter position varies depending on the chassis it came out of. An MA61 Supra box will have the same shifter position as an RA6x Celica (same/similar chassis), however the MA70 W58 has a different shifter position and the JZA80 W58 is different again.
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Re: Where to buy a W58 Thu, 06 February 2003 03:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
as far as i know also, ALL w58's have a steel sandwich plate. come to think of it...all 5spd supra boxes from 83+ have a steel sandwich plate as far as i know.
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Re: Where to buy a W58 Thu, 06 February 2003 09:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
I thought the w58 had a alloy plate??? Dammit! Which sandwich plate anyway? Dont they have more than one?
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Re: Where to buy a W58 Thu, 06 February 2003 13:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
W58's have an alloy case and a steel sandwich plate. Definitely steel; I had two of these things sitting in my garage recently, one from a Mk2 Supra and one from a Mk4 Supra.
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Re: Where to buy a W58 Thu, 06 February 2003 13:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ahh ok. I feel like a bit of a fool then Embarassed So where is the steel sandwich plate? I mean how do I identify it?
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Re: Where to buy a W58 Thu, 06 February 2003 13:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Hehe, its "sandwiched" in the middle of the box. I didn't know what people were talking about till yesterday Razz

There should be a bit in the middle of the box that looks different to the rest of it, i.e. maybe a dark gray colour with a touch of surface rust...
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Re: Where to buy a W58 Thu, 06 February 2003 13:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Anyone have a picture?
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Re: Where to buy a W58 Thu, 06 February 2003 13:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
http://www.wn.com.au/ferres/yoda_boxes.html
also
http://www.norbie.net/Project2JZ/XMember2/medium_Trans1.jpg

Should be able to see the sandwich plates.

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Re: Where to buy a W58 Thu, 06 February 2003 13:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
I think you can see it in this picture.

http://users.bigpond.net.au/justcallmefrank/05022003/IMGP0684.JPG

Its the darker bit half way along the box...can anyone tell me I'm really wrong, cos thats what it looks like from peoples descriptions Razz
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Re: Where to buy a W58 Thu, 06 February 2003 21:50 Go to previous message
Oh thanks for that. Now I understand.
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