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icon8.gif  Corona MK2 Mon, 10 February 2003 07:19 Go to next message
Hello,PLEASE HELP ME! i recently baught a Corona Mk2 '74. I had had it for 1 week, the head gasket went and the head warped. Maby those adds about private sales and buying a lemon were true. Anyway i was wondering what motor would go into it without a hassel. one WITHOUT AN ALLOY HEAD! and prefferably under $1000. Everyone i have asked so far is saying only an 4m, or m4 will go in it. It has a 3speed auto gear bok, i believe it is the original. Something that will not require me to replace suspension, and exhaust would be good.

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Re: Corona MK2 Mon, 10 February 2003 07:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Myth wrote on Mon, 10 February 2003 18:19


......one WITHOUT AN ALLOY HEAD! and prefferably under $1000.

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Nothing.

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Re: Corona MK2 Mon, 10 February 2003 07:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
jUST SOMETHING that wont warp will be fine.................................
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Re: Corona MK2 Mon, 10 February 2003 08:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
If it's a 4m then any M motor will fit.
How much to spend?, how fast to go?

for example a 7mgte will fit, but you will need a gbox upgrade with anything beyond std (voice of experience)
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Re: Corona MK2 Mon, 10 February 2003 08:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Um... can spent from $600 to $1000 i guess. It would be good if it could go fast, but it is a first car, so im not too worried if it doesent. As for the gearbox... it would be to hard to put a manual is it wouldent it? have to put a clutch in an all. Maby an supra or celica auto or something....
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Re: Corona MK2 Mon, 10 February 2003 08:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
This is what i got quoted from one wrecker:
'81 (Celica Supra) 5M-E 2.8 (168.4), I-6, SOHC EFI
Thats with computer, and all the other stuff, which once again, i know nothing about.

Is that a good price? what are the chances of the motor being rooted?
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Re: Corona MK2 Mon, 10 February 2003 08:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
You didn't supply a price, the number of kilometres the 5ME travelled or any idea of the cylinder compression. Your guess is as good as any of ours.

How about the simplest option - get another 4M head ($50), get it surfaced ($50), buy a head gasket ($20-80) and take car to a mechanic to get the head replaced (if you're not confident enough to do it yourself).
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Re: Corona MK2 Mon, 10 February 2003 08:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Just get the current head machined Rolling Eyes
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Re: Corona MK2 Mon, 10 February 2003 10:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Myth..
Try and get a 5MGE if you want to go that way.. A 5ME is not a fantastic motor out of the box.. A 5MGE is better being twin cam.. You usually find them in latish Cressida's..
If you get the motor, try and get the gearbox also.. Only because it's 4 speed not 3.. The tailshaft will have to be modified to suit if you are going to use the 4 speed box... You can use the front section of a RA23 tailshaft and bolt the second half of the MkII's tailshaft... Any M's series motor will bolt in.. Try and avoid a 7MGE if you want reliabilty, unless the head gasket has been changed.. These motors are renown for it..

You didn't buy a lemon, I have a MKII also.. There big, comfy and ugly... You can't beat them!!!




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Re: Corona MK2 Mon, 10 February 2003 10:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
take my 5me with a 5spd w58. Make an offer Twisted Evil you can have the both for a decent price...yes the 4m was a big heap of shit...the beginning of a disaster engine series bar 6mge. Rolling Eyes

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Re: Corona MK2 Mon, 10 February 2003 11:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Pumpkin wrote on Mon, 10 February 2003 21:20



You didn't buy a lemon, I have a MKII also.. There big, comfy and ugly... You can't beat them!!!




Correct, the Corona Mk2 is one of the most beautiful cars to grace the roads.

PS. Robbo, you stick to your Clevo tow motor, that's fine by us. Enjoy your "400 hp".

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Re: Corona MK2 Mon, 10 February 2003 11:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
oops im sorry. Laughing I stated the obvious with 5me and 4me engines...i know because i own one..also 7m series. I cant really comment on 5mge and 6mge cos i never owned one. I am sticking to my boss302 mate...i just launched that thread again. bought more parts for it this weekend Very Happy
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Re: Corona MK2 Mon, 10 February 2003 12:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Owned all M series (bar 3M and 6/7MGE), and never had a problem (that wasn't my fault). I honestly can't understand what people actually have against them. They are incredibly reliable work horses given that all those engines are now over 20 years old. Exactly what do you people expect? Nobody would hop in an XC Falcon with a 200 CID 3 speed auto and expect it slam down a 15 second quarter after it has been neglected for all of its life.

I really don't know where some people get off sometimes.
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Re: Corona MK2 Mon, 10 February 2003 12:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
well most of us speak from experience. there are lucky ones like yourself obviously that havent had problems. Then there are the not so lucky that have nothing but problems. I will actually stand up for my 5me because in 2.5yrs it has only had one problem...cracked head which wasnt the engines fault...a shit hg was used when it was rebuilt. But it now has a recod head etc and is like new. Although its almost certain these old engines blow them again. People with old 5mes now couldve blown 3 or 4 gaskets by then. Perhaps if a person was supernice to the car like an old granny couple it might never have blown one. its all about owners as well...a slightly problematic engine can turn into a major pos very easily if mistreated.
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Re: Corona MK2 Mon, 10 February 2003 12:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
forgot to mention ive owned only a 5me, 5mge and 7mgte. 5mge was 86 cressida, 5me supra ma61, 7mgte soarer mz21. mate had a 4m crown.
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Re: Corona MK2 Mon, 10 February 2003 12:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
I still don't understand why they're a shit motor.
I have never heard of a 2/4/5M actually blowing a head gasket that wasn't cooked by the owner. That is carelessness or neglect, and is the result of a shit owner rather than a shit motor.
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Re: Corona MK2 Mon, 10 February 2003 12:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
oh dear, here we go... "robbo and the engineering masterstroke of the pushrod 302" vs " the rest of the sensible world, and the M series engine with a tappet drive SOHC"

dear god

the 5me was making 103kw with EFI in 1979 in a truly economical manner, it was a PIONEERING engine. its this ingenuity that saw the m series in sevice over 30 years. GTs right: garbage in, garbage out.

everyone spanks the m series for zero warranted reason. tighten the headbolts, which was i belive was made available in a service bulletin at some point. end of story.

quit the gas bagging

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Re: Corona MK2 Mon, 10 February 2003 13:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
oh, and di i mention the 7mgte got engine of the year in 1987
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Re: Corona MK2 Mon, 10 February 2003 13:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
http://www.eds.au.com/toymods/7mheadgasket.jpg

every single 7m/5m with a BHG i have EVER pulled apart is like this... and in all cases guess which head bolts were finger tight.
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Re: Corona MK2 Tue, 11 February 2003 06:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
hehehe hehehehe
Thanks for your help:) i think i will just stick another 4m in it for now, they are a reliable motor, the only reason i cooked mine, is because i over worked it and didnt think to check the radiator. It is the first time i have had an old car, actually the first time i have had a car alltogether.
I will keep it however, and when i have more money, do it up. A 7m-gte, and a 4speed gear box. however then i will need to get new suspension, new exhaust...new new new....
The 4m will do for now, just gotta remember the damn coolent.

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Re: Corona MK2 Tue, 11 February 2003 08:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
please yourself. Laughing engine of the year ay? Guess they didnt look nissans way Laughing Maybe that was before the 160km you get before the hg blows.
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Re: Corona MK2 Tue, 11 February 2003 09:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
lol its quite funny you say that, i only got 190Km in mine before it blew!
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Re: Corona MK2 Tue, 11 February 2003 09:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
you're a lucky fella Shocked
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Re: Corona MK2 Tue, 11 February 2003 11:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
ROBBO_ma61 wrote on Tue, 11 February 2003 19:01, with respect to the 4m::

please yourself. Laughing


robbo, seriously, you should see a worked, triple side draught hi-po 1969 2M before you you piss so streamingly upon them. c.inch for c.inch, it would most certainly piss on your 302.

myth: the 4m has a fair bit of potential if youre up for some fab work and a lot of fiddling about. parts these dys are HELLA cheap, and you can afford to have a good play with them, and learn all about OHC engines, carbies etc etc.

theyre a really robust engine as long as youre sensible, and take PREVENTATIVE maintenance measures (unlike the majority of loud vessles on these forums). i can garuntee you youll have a lot of fun toying with the old 4m, and youll be suprised as to how hard they really can go.

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Re: Corona MK2 Tue, 11 February 2003 11:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Thanks mate Smile looks like im heading for a 4m anyway.
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Re: Corona MK2 Tue, 11 February 2003 11:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
never even seen a 2m ed thats why i didnt say anything about them. read the post before commenting.
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Re: Corona MK2 Tue, 11 February 2003 11:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
m/2m/3m/4m/5me/5mge/6mge/7mge/7mgte

same shit, different colour. the only reason i picked on the 2m was because it directly compares to the vintage of your 302 (late sixties). my comments are as valid for all the above listed engines, and thus argue interchangeably with respect to whatever you wrote above.
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Re: Corona MK2 Tue, 11 February 2003 12:08 Go to previous message
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