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1/4 Mile Top Speed a Good Show of Power?? Mon, 10 June 2002 16:29 Go to next message
Here is an Idea...

With lots of Dyno figures being pushed around, how about checking out 1/4 mile figures. A lot of guys say "oh.. i only ran a 15 cause i stuffed the start and bog'd down"... Well how about asking them what their top speed was.

Eg. My Cressida doing a 13.8 ran 170.8kph. (A little slow but i'm buggered if i go much quicker cause it will hit the speed limiter)

Anyhow... FOR everyone else.. post your 1/4 Mile Top speeds and your dyno figures.

EG:
NAME : LUKE
POWER : Will find out at DYNO DAY
ET : 13.8@170.8kph
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Re: 1/4 Mile Top Speed a Good Show of Power?? Mon, 10 June 2002 16:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Say another 1J cressida did a 13.7@160kph... would that indicate someone has a better launch but not as much top end?

PROVIDED both cars are flat out at the trap.
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Re: 1/4 Mile Top Speed a Good Show of Power?? Mon, 10 June 2002 22:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Autospeed has published an article about this and found that trap speed is the best indication of rwhp when compared to 0-100 and 1/4 mile times.

on the same day as luke i did a 5.8 0-100 and flat 14 sec 1/4.

however the traps speed was 175 kmh.

the final 1/4 mile and trap were slow though because the last 150 m of the 1/4 was around a bend. I held on for the 1/4 running the wrong way to see if i could get it in before the bend.
I was having lots of trouble launching and when the 5.8 came up I decided to press on.

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Re: 1/4 Mile Top Speed a Good Show of Power?? Mon, 10 June 2002 22:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Hey guys,

Dan #2 here that was at the 1/4 mile G-Tech runs. I have a couple of photos of you fellas travelling past my camera at close to 180 km/h if you're interested - First! tell me one thing.... how do i post em on here? Embarassed

[Updated on: Tue, 11 June 2002 22:26]

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Re: 1/4 Mile Top Speed a Good Show of Power?? Tue, 11 June 2002 02:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Name: Dan
Car: AE93 Corolla Seca RV
Engine: 7AFE
DYNO: 49fwkw
Quater: 16.9 @ 139km/h(not ahppy needs to improve majorly)
Second run: 17.2 @ 143km/h?? Was a bad take off on this one though, just spun the wheels off the mark. (thats not meant to be an excuse Razz)

0-100: 9.5 (see above Razz)
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Re: 1/4 Mile Top Speed a Good Show of Power?? Tue, 11 June 2002 02:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
if you email to lukess1@bigpond.comi'll post them

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Re: 1/4 Mile Top Speed a Good Show of Power?? Tue, 11 June 2002 09:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Peat's ridge isn't a good drag spot. too well known,and the locals call the constabularly at the first sound of runs.

you have 15min tops once you get there before a highway car will pull in behind you for a chat.


Justin...

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Re: 1/4 Mile Top Speed a Good Show of Power?? Tue, 11 June 2002 10:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Yeah, well we got a good 2 1/2 hours in on sunday, when there was a lot of hway cars out looking for us.
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Re: 1/4 Mile Top Speed a Good Show of Power?? Tue, 11 June 2002 11:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
thats right.. we had ages. its a different story at night when the cops have nothing to do. There is a house right next to the drag strip.. hehe.. i'd never seen it cause it was always dark and after midnight when i went up.

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Re: 1/4 Mile Top Speed a Good Show of Power?? Tue, 11 June 2002 11:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
15.38 @ 70.2 mph
last run with angry gear box!
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Re: 1/4 Mile Top Speed a Good Show of Power?? Tue, 11 June 2002 11:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
When was that? What was that?? Who was that??
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Re: 1/4 Mile Top Speed a Good Show of Power?? Tue, 11 June 2002 13:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
NAME TREVOR
CAR TA22
MOTOR 3SGTE
BOOST 17PSI
DYNO 233HP - 174KW
1/4 MILE 12.8 ( 114MPH - 182KPH )
This was before the rebuild I have not run the 1/4 since I rebuilt the motor , Dynoed now at ( 203kw - 272hp ) on 17psi boost and (237kw - 317hp )on 23psi.

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Re: 1/4 Mile Top Speed a Good Show of Power?? Tue, 11 June 2002 13:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Hi Guys,we were messing around with the Gtech with a 20v SX corolla and the owner got a time of 16.4 @ 144.3km/h.He let me have a go as it was the first time he had timed it.I managed to do a 16.02 @ 144.2 km/h.This seemed a little dissapointing from a 20v as my corolla that night ran a best of 15.4 and a few 15.8 at a top end of around the 150km/h mark.I could not understand this as I always belived that the 20v had the edge when it came to top end power.

I was keen to gtech the celica and got a 12.96 but the car we later on descovered ate a plug Sleep which caused a misfire in 3rd gear on the run and sounded like a wrx after that.I cant remember the speed trap......to worried about what sort of damage I had done.Cant wait to give it another bash,this time with the bosch 4 ways this time.

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icon8.gif  Re: 1/4 Mile Top Speed a Good Show of Power?? Tue, 11 June 2002 13:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Sorry Guys But it needs to be said.

The Toymods car club in no way supports street racing of any kind. There was a thread about 0-100 G tech runs which was close to the line but as long as it sits inside the boundries of the law I personally have no problem with that. Mind you the street racing laws are pretty blurry so in hind sight thats prolly a bad idea too !

I do have a problem with Qtr Mile runs on public roads No No No

Eastern Creek is open for street meets twice a month and its alot cheaper than a speeding fine. I know I sound like an old maid but facts are simple. Its illegal and its dangerous. Any Threads encouraging Illegal use of Pulic roads in anyway will be deleted. I am going to assume all times quoted above were actually LEGALLY obtain on a race track so I would kindly request any refrence that suggests otherwise be edited out.

This is a PUBLIC forum please think about what you are typing for all and sundry to read but above all else Drive safe.

Thanks.

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Re: 1/4 Mile Top Speed a Good Show of Power?? Thu, 13 June 2002 23:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Toyota Crown 1972
5M turbo
20 psi
220 rwkw (dropped 40 rwkw when changed to auto-so 260 manual)
2.7 sec 60foot (talk about bad)
supra auto g/box
2900 stall (pajero front on converter)
13.4
114mph

Rather disappointing really, but I'm hoping the 4.5 litre turbo will change that.

Time recorded at Adelaide International Raceway.

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Re: 1/4 Mile Top Speed a Good Show of Power?? Fri, 14 June 2002 06:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
11.9 at 111mph at Eastern Creek, i have used a G-Tech and found the mph to be way out{on my car}.
No horsepower figures as car has not been Dynoed,but is estimated at around 230rwhp.
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Re: 1/4 Mile Top Speed a Good Show of Power?? Fri, 14 June 2002 07:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Nice time V8celica...

Is this a fair thing to say.....

Judging by the MR2's 118mph speed and 12.4, If he puts some slicks on the car and does a launch much like the one in your photo, it will run under an 11.9???

I understand that because of the 111mph v's 118mph.

Once again, this is not intended as a bitch fight so don't take this the wrong way, I'm just heaps looking forward to seeing a 4ag do a sub 12 time!

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Re: 1/4 Mile Top Speed a Good Show of Power?? Sat, 15 June 2002 04:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Yes 118mph should ruffly equal a mid to low 11 second pass BUT there is more to it than just putting a set of slicks on a car, the key to a good hard launch is very soft suspension and weight transfer. The MR2 being a mid mount is going to have a lot of trouble getting the power down even with slicks.
After seeing a lot of the Toymods cars at Eastern Creek it is easy to see that most of them are set up to handle better than most normal cars, a good example of this is Yogi's car i have only seen it the once but i can tell if his drive line was in my car it would run aloy quicker but it would then handle like a wet sponge, what i am trying to say is it is very hard to have a car that is great at everthing, my car without a doubt would be the worst handling car on this forum but i like the drags.
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Re: 1/4 Mile Top Speed a Good Show of Power?? Sat, 15 June 2002 05:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
thats so true.

I don't know what to make of my car yet. Its a hard decision. I could spend lots of money on suspension to have a good handling car, or i could spend loads on having a quick drag car. And i'm sure Joey's cressida will prove that it can be done very soon.

I love my car to handle but at the same time, it will never handle like the sprinter did. So where do you draw the line with a boat like mine. I guess i'm going to try and make it as even as possible. Already many people find it hard to keep with me up the old pac... i do know the road well but hey i'm also leading and following is a hell of a lot easier on a night run.

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Re: 1/4 Mile Top Speed a Good Show of Power?? Sat, 15 June 2002 10:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Phil

210rwhp

13.8 @172kph
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Re: 1/4 Mile Top Speed a Good Show of Power?? Mon, 17 June 2002 01:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
AE92 Corolla - 100kw 4AGE
(49 front wheel Kw at the last Dyno Day)

0-100: 8.53 seconds
400m: 16.58 @ 143km/h

This was on a pretty average start too (by my traffic light standards at any rate!) and can hopefully be improved on in the future. Smile

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Re: 1/4 Mile Top Speed a Good Show of Power?? Fri, 21 June 2002 06:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
A dyno is a tuning tool and thats it. Compare my 4ag to rigoli's. His engine bay is full of more shit than his dyno, which by the way states it makes more than 320hp.

Tony Rigoli Performance
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Mr2: find hp next dyno day 12.4 118mph (optimax,no lsd 20psi)
Completely stock 4agze (aw11 type) gt30 turbo definitatly not 320hp.
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Re: 1/4 Mile Top Speed a Good Show of Power?? Fri, 21 June 2002 06:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ummm...

Name: Look left <-
Car: Left again <-
Engine: 5sfe
Boost: Depends on how windy it is.
Dyno: Nope.
0-100: NFI. (got over 120 in 2nd though. Woo! Go the auto!)
1/4: NFI.
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Re: 1/4 Mile Top Speed a Good Show of Power?? Fri, 21 June 2002 15:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
lateraluss wrote on Fri, 21 June 2002 4:25 PM


Tony Rigoli Performance
Toyota corolla: 320hp@wheels 12.1 115mph (avgas,lsd 25psi)

Mr2: find hp next dyno day 12.4 118mph (optimax,no lsd 20psi)
Completely stock 4agze (aw11 type) gt30 turbo definitatly not 320hp.



You gotta love RWD. Rolling

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Re: 1/4 Mile Top Speed a Good Show of Power?? Sun, 23 June 2002 00:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
This is a quite embarising Embarassed question to ask, but what kind of et could i expect to get from a ae82 with a 4ac with only 2" exhuast mod???

Any ideas, estimates greatly appreciated Smile
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Re: 1/4 Mile Top Speed a Good Show of Power?? Sun, 23 June 2002 13:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Back again just had a couple of runs at the strip today

Car - TA22 Celica
Motor - ST165 3SGTE
Tyres - 205/60/13 street
Dyno - 233 hp @ 17psi boost
" - 317 hp @ 23psi "
Quater - 12.64 @ 119.25 on 17psi
Could not get traction so did not try 23psi.

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Re: 1/4 Mile Top Speed a Good Show of Power?? Sun, 23 June 2002 23:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Singlecam wrote on Sun, 23 June 2002 10:18 AM

This is a quite embarising Embarassed question to ask, but what kind of et could i expect to get from a ae82 with a 4ac with only 2" exhuast mod???

Any ideas, estimates greatly appreciated Smile


I dunno. Assuming you are the worlds greatest driver... maybe 10 minutes. Razz
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Re: 1/4 Mile Top Speed a Good Show of Power?? Mon, 24 June 2002 01:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
SO what about trap speed of 100mph ? what sort of time can you expect from this if you can get decent traction ?
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Re: 1/4 Mile Top Speed a Good Show of Power?? Mon, 24 June 2002 02:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Name - Matt.
Car - '71 Ford Escort with 3TGTEU (pretty standard motor, just exhaust, air filter, and aftermarket computer)
Power - ~140rwhp I'm told by previous owner
Qtr - 16.4 @ 144 kph. (My first time drag racing - traction was diificult to say the least!)
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Re: 1/4 Mile Top Speed a Good Show of Power?? Tue, 25 June 2002 06:17 Go to previous message
drifter4ag, 100mph ruffly equals 13.0 quater time, but this is a RUFF estimate.

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