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ST-185 or ST-205 box to replace RAV4 manual box?
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Wed, 12 February 2003 17:14
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Just wanted to know if either the ST-185 or the ST-205 gearboxes could be used to replace the RAV4's stocker.
On RAV4World.com I talk to a guy from NZ who has done this conversion, but he's a right racer with no conception of 'normal' driving. His philosophy on the box is "throw it in and race it".  Not much of a help...
How are these two gearboxes different to the RAV4 (I'm guessing it's out of an All-Trac Celica)? In your opinion, is the stock RAV4 gearbox good enough to handle the power of a turbo, or does it need strengthening/replacing?
What is involved in getting a gearbox strengthened?
Answers to any or all of these questions appreciated, just so I know where I stand with this project, and how much to shell-out (if any) when the time comes. 
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Re: ST-185 or ST-205 box to replace RAV4 manual box?
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Thu, 13 February 2003 08:09
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If you want to have a trial fit of a ST205 box I have one here 
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Re: ST-185 or ST-205 box to replace RAV4 manual box?
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Thu, 13 February 2003 09:14
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I wish it were that simple - I don't have the tools (and very little time) to drop out one box and replace it with another by myself. On top of that, I don't have the mechanical knowledge or the confidence to do this job here. I'm just looking for a guide as to how it would fit as a straight swapover from my stock box.
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Re: ST-185 or ST-205 box to replace RAV4 manual box?
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Thu, 13 February 2003 11:48
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There was a Yellow Turbo Rav4 in FF's many years ago, and I think he used a V6 Camry Box from memory...
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Re: ST-185 or ST-205 box to replace RAV4 manual box?
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Thu, 13 February 2003 11:49
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A camry box in a AWD with a camry motor 
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Re: ST-185 or ST-205 box to replace RAV4 manual box?
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Thu, 13 February 2003 12:02
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Yeah when I read it, I though something similar.... I found the article... Real old as it's still got Fast Fours and Rotaries on the cover!... But the guy who own's it was a Toyota Mechanic, says V6 Box is stronger and beefier internals, and the transfer casing bolted up... I would be worried about the transfer casing on a hard launch.
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Re: ST-185 or ST-205 box to replace RAV4 manual box?
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Thu, 13 February 2003 12:11
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Does anyone know if the info on that yellow turbo RAV is available on the FF&R website?
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Re: ST-185 or ST-205 box to replace RAV4 manual box?
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Thu, 13 February 2003 12:39
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Nar, It wouldn't be, this issue is about '95 vintage, way before most people even thought of the Net a useful for anything other than porn
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Re: ST-185 or ST-205 box to replace RAV4 manual box?
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Thu, 13 February 2003 12:42
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I might have a chat to the guys at AVO in Melbourne - see what advice they got to offer (if any) and go from there...
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Re: ST-185 or ST-205 box to replace RAV4 manual box?
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Thu, 13 February 2003 13:13
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Why don't you just keep the original box and just worry about it if it breaks? No one knows what sort of potential lie within, you can be a pioneer!
It all comes down to driving style as well, look at Nark's Celica, he drives like a maniac (his own confession) yet he has managed to make his T-series diff last the whole time he's had a 1GGTE...most people wouldn't give it that long at all! Especially since he's upped the load on them by fitting big rims and tyres!
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Re: ST-185 or ST-205 box to replace RAV4 manual box?
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Thu, 13 February 2003 13:23
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Because I'm trying to sort out the "if's" from the "definite's" in terms of mechanical breakage due to strain from this turbo upgrade. I don't drive like a hoon either, but there will be times when I get to take this baby down the quarter-mile, and that's when it will be worked at it's hardest.
The difference between 'pioneer' and 'guinea-pig' is measured on the rate of success. I'm somewhere in the middle, with a slight 'pioneer' bias. 
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