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Re: FS:3SGTE RWD bellhousing for W series gearboxes
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Sat, 15 February 2003 10:45
 
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Why are they so pricey? Whats been done to them?
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Re: FS:3SGTE RWD bellhousing for W series gearboxes
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Sat, 15 February 2003 10:47
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I was just thinking that. For that price i'd expext the gearbox to go with it
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Re: FS:3SGTE RWD bellhousing for W series gearboxes
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Sat, 15 February 2003 10:54
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You can get these bellhousings fully modified(shortened with starter on drivers side) for about $200NZ from Fraser.co.nz.
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Re: FS:3SGTE RWD bellhousing for W series gearboxes
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Mon, 17 February 2003 00:04
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wow so with these NZ bellhousings you can run the stock turbomanifold (apart from thr fact its facing the wrong way) and it will sit the 3sgte upright, with the gearbox upright also.
still the problem on the inlet manifold and exhaust + mounts tho yes? oh and flywheel(2s) etc infact i think my mate had to use a custom flywheel with his 2s bellhousing
idea's its all so long ago now
(P.S this has been covered often i know)
just been thinking a 3sgte corolla conversion, or maybe a CA18DET as its RWD ready to go and cheaper? but not toyota
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Re: FS:3SGTE RWD bellhousing for W series gearboxes
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Mon, 17 February 2003 07:55
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I will be using the standard flywheel with new mounts and manifolds!
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Re: FS:3SGTE RWD bellhousing for W series gearboxes
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Wed, 19 February 2003 13:26
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Hey cool1, I went to the site and had a look around and could not find the price you quoted. Is it on the site at all? Or did you contact them directly?
Cheers
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Re: FS:3SGTE RWD bellhousing for W series gearboxes
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Wed, 19 February 2003 23:06
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I just rang the guy! I actually spoke to him again yesterday!
The prices are:
$165NZ for a shortened bellhousing.
$400NZ for a shortened bellhousing with starter on drivers side.
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Re: FS:3SGTE RWD bellhousing for W series gearboxes
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Thu, 20 February 2003 02:05
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Thanks 
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Re: FS:3SGTE RWD bellhousing for W series gearboxes
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Thu, 20 February 2003 06:54
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you cant run the std rwd fly wheel behind these you have 2 run a fwd fly wheel and all the clutch action is wrong and there are 2 many probs, it all set up for a race car that has a few laps ,i have been down this path and it is all wrong ,you can pay the 200 aus for a peace of alloy that doent work 2 well my 3 cents worth
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Re: FS:3SGTE RWD bellhousing for W series gearboxes
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Thu, 20 February 2003 07:36
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What??
You use the standard 3s flywheel andf clutch! This is the idea of the shortened bellhousing!
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Re: FS:3SGTE RWD bellhousing for W series gearboxes
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Thu, 20 February 2003 08:18
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all i can tell you ,is all the clutching is out of wack ,remember the 2s is rwd so you machine what 15mm of the faceof the bellhousing to move the input shaft into the fly wheel crank shaft ,when in std form the input shaft bearing is in the flywheel it self the rwd flywheel is 48 mm thick against 30 mm for fwd so you are changing the clutch angle and my bellhousing has the clutch and starter on the drivers side and is not machined off at all and i use a rwd flywheel and have no problems at all .even the altezza with the 6 speed has the same set up i have ,so i would not pay to buy 1 ,you find out your own way ,been running it this way 7 years and 2 years your way which was a pain in the arse
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Re: FS:3SGTE RWD bellhousing for W series gearboxes
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Thu, 20 February 2003 08:22
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What the hell are you talking about? Are you telling us that your setup is the greatest but not telling us what it is?
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Re: FS:3SGTE RWD bellhousing for W series gearboxes
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Thu, 20 February 2003 08:32
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So what setup are you using? And how much did it cost? If the whole setup is less than $500 i'll be interested!
But I dont see what the clutch cant be made to work! I mean Fraser.co.nz has used this setup more times than the can recall without any problems! So why are you telling us that it doesn't work?
By the way the bellhousing you buy modified from Fraser has the starter on the drivers side! You can also have the clutch on the drivers side if you wish!
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Re: FS:3SGTE RWD bellhousing for W series gearboxes
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Thu, 20 February 2003 09:09
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i have been running 3sge in rwd for years and everybody said do the mods like your talking about fine ,go for it .for the record i use a chromoly fly wheel in rwd format thats made up 400 plus then the bellhousing that i got made plus the price of it and that cost me 500 all up so we are talking 900 so far. my mate steven basic did exactly the same thing from the 1st place where i went your way had 2 many problems with cluch angles ,his sprinter was in zoom mag the same same time as mine was finished he had no problems where i had heaps .the altezza 3sge uses the same flywheel as i use and same size ,i think a lot of guys do your way ,thinking they are saving money ,but in thev long term ends up costing more so you can be the judge i will put some pics up when i get a chance
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Re: FS:3SGTE RWD bellhousing for W series gearboxes
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Thu, 20 February 2003 09:13
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icq me on 63695189
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Re: FS:3SGTE RWD bellhousing for W series gearboxes
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Thu, 20 February 2003 09:13
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Ok, thats cleared that up! BUT!!! Where did you get these bits from?
Where did you get the bellhousing made? What should I ask for?
Where did you get the flywheel? What do I ask for?
What about the clutch? is it the standard item that came with the 3s?
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Re: FS:3SGTE RWD bellhousing for W series gearboxes
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Thu, 20 February 2003 11:48
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i hope everyone is as confused as i am. (i am not saying your wrong i just dont get it)
*drinking large amount of home brew might explain*
Mate is using a custom made fly (2s bellhousing and its all good)
billet fly, and they have made lots of the 3sge kit cars (RWD)
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Re: FS:3SGTE RWD bellhousing for W series gearboxes
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Thu, 20 February 2003 12:12
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if your talking about toyospares they got the rwd specs from me for the kit cars also they leave the starter on the exhaust side
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Re: FS:3SGTE RWD bellhousing for W series gearboxes
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Thu, 20 February 2003 23:30
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Who makes up these flywheels? I am very interested!
Assuming I used one of these flywheels, would the 2S RWD bellhousing then be ok to use without having to machine anything off it? I have no problems leaving the starter on the passanger side as will be making a custom turbo manifold.
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Re: FS:3SGTE RWD bellhousing for W series gearboxes
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Thu, 20 February 2003 23:39
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yes everything is cool if you use these flywheels even the std flywheel bolts as well ,long as they are manual and not auto ,then everything is fine
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Re: FS:3SGTE RWD bellhousing for W series gearboxes
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Fri, 21 February 2003 00:09
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How would I go about purchasing one of these?
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Re: FS:3SGTE RWD bellhousing for W series gearboxes
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Fri, 21 February 2003 00:39
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they are chromoly and weigh 4 kilos 500 all up plus postage to you
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Re: FS:3SGTE RWD bellhousing for W series gearboxes
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Fri, 21 February 2003 00:47
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Are these the same as the ones from Toyospares? I noticed they had them for $450. Don't mean to insult or anything! Just checking if they are the same item or not.
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Joel
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Re: FS:3SGTE RWD bellhousing for W series gearboxes
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Fri, 21 February 2003 01:28
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I was having a chat to the guy who is going to make the clutch for the 3s-gte.
He reckons 4kg is way too light for a turbo flywheel. What is everyone elses opinion on this?
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Re: FS:3SGTE RWD bellhousing for W series gearboxes
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Fri, 21 February 2003 04:08
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Yeah 6kg is more what i'd be after for the 3sgte.
I was talking to toyospares they used some material called bisalloy? you find cromoly to be good?
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Fri, 21 February 2003 04:11
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icq me 63695189 now
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Re: FS:3SGTE RWD bellhousing for W series gearboxes
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Fri, 21 February 2003 04:18
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Mate if I could use ICQ at work I would.. Only have MSN?
can email me at joel_fitzgerald@hotmail.com
Cheers
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Re: FS:3SGTE RWD bellhousing for W series gearboxes
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Fri, 21 February 2003 04:26
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chrome moly can get hot and wont fall apart like steel; does
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Re: FS:3SGTE RWD bellhousing for W series gearboxes
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Mon, 24 February 2003 01:36
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joel i have seen and been around the toyospares flywheel, and without saying much i like them 
and i know both these people and i know a certain person is often at toyospares. (if this is Glen with the RA and the beams motors)
I thought your fly was more for race use hence lighter and may not be as useable on street?
end of the day make your mind up, but if you are going to toyospares let me know i'll meet you there for a look. Afterall your car did help inspire the TUFF-22
P.S i spoke to toyospares on weekend about it, did you give them a call? my mate works there
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Re: FS:3SGTE RWD bellhousing for W series gearboxes
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Mon, 24 February 2003 01:43
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oh and glen (if this is often at toyospares glen) aint your fly's made for the NA race motors of yours (3sg)hence may be a fair bit lighter than a street turbo fly could/should be?
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Re: FS:3SGTE RWD bellhousing for W series gearboxes
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Mon, 24 February 2003 05:48
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ok guys go here and have a look www.todaracing.com
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Re: FS:3SGTE RWD bellhousing for W series gearboxes
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Mon, 24 February 2003 05:50
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ok guys go here and have a look www.todaracing.com and look at the flywheels
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Re: FS:3SGTE RWD bellhousing for W series gearboxes
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Mon, 24 February 2003 10:48
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Yeah its not really for race use, mainly street, occasional track and drag.
Thats why don't want to go too light.. Glenn was saying could make them bit heavier more like 6kg which would probably suit.
I spoke to Troy at toyospares first time round, then rang to ask a few more questions and got someone who didn't seem to know much about them at all.
Those ones on toda site look nice. Is that what yours are based on Glenn?
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