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Big engines, baby! Now control your tempers... Tue, 06 May 2003 05:22 Go to previous message
As a result of some recent threads posted by some, I figured I might as well be the one to start some trouble on this topic Evil or Very Mad It'd be nice if we can keep this to peoples opinions, and not opinions of people...


As I see it, the old statement 'there ain't no substitute for cubic inches' stands true. For making grunt, and most of all usable grunt, they can't be beat. Turbo? Supercharger? Nitrous? Hell yes - but look at it this way - an NA 4ag might manage 120rwkw. A turbo'd one might manage 300 (notice the 'might' please!). An NA 2jz might manage 190. A turbo'd one might manage 400+. Now let's try the same trick for a 5 litre V8: An NA one might manage 230. A turbo'd one might manage 700. Does anyone see a trend here? Bigger DOES go harder! But... and a big but...

A standard 4agze is strong enough for 200+rwkw (I'm going to find out just HOW much before too long). A standard 2jzgte is strong enough for, say, 350-400rwkw (going on examples in magazines, web sites, etc - I realise some may claim they are even stronger.) A standard VT 304 will call it a day long before the 2JZ, simply because it's not built from strong enough components, and will break from torque+revs. But, give each engine a budget ignored rebuild, and see how the numbers change! 4AGZE+11000rpm+big boost might manage, say, 360. 2jzgte might make, say, 750+. 304, well, anyone go to the last Horsepower Heroes? If you can stop the thing from splitting the block etc., then it's almost a matter of naming a number.

Please note, all numbers are RWKW, possibly quite optimistic, and quite likely would cost big bucks. But, I'm sticking to 'a good big one is better than a good small one'

Now, does anyone have anything to add? Constructively, of course...
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Read Message   Big engines, baby! Now control your tempers...  mrshinTue, 06 May 2003 05:22
Read Message   Re: Big engines, baby! Now control your tempers... mrshinTue, 06 May 2003 05:24
Read Message   Re: Big engines, baby! Now control your tempers... ed_ma61Tue, 06 May 2003 05:33
Read Message   Re: Big engines, baby! Now control your tempers... justcallmefrankTue, 06 May 2003 05:36
Read Message   Re: Big engines, baby! Now control your tempers... justcallmefrankTue, 06 May 2003 05:40
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Read Message   Re: Big engines, baby! Now control your tempers... ed_ma61Tue, 06 May 2003 05:55
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Read Message   Yeah big is better.. if were comparing sizes :) IRA11YWed, 07 May 2003 10:10
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