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7M-Brisbane Forums Junkie Location: Brisbane Registered: November 2002	Re: who likes Commodores ? Mon, 10 May 2004 01:59 Quote: vl turbo's arent fast really.. they do a 15.5 stock?.. I love them and think they are a great car.. but if i had 7-8k to spend on one of them id probably get an old celica gt4 instead.. or a silvia Both of which are slower than VL Turbos (particularly the GT4), and considerably more expensive. I like your logic My VL turbo ran 15.08@96mph with no modifications - and an open diff resulting in a 2.55 60ft! An ex-friend of mine had a VL and ran a 1.9 60ft with an LSD, so I would expect that with an LSD my car would have run mid 14's all day long. Mine was also a Berlina which is considerably heavier than your average Executive, SL, or BT1. I'd expect that if there was actually a standard base model VL turbo left ( ) that running mid-low 14's would certainly be no hassle. Quote: VL Turbos aren't even twin cam. Come to think of it, are they even intercooled? They are neither twin cam, nor intercooled (although some idiots insist that the finned intake pipe is an 'intercooler' ). But, you say it like these are bad things? All this means to me is that, if a car runs 14's standard without an intercoler, then there are particularly large gains to be had if one is fitted! A car that is intercooler from factory will not get as large a gain as one that is non-intercooled... bang for buck again comes into it! On a technical level a twin cam head is ideal, however there are a large number of cars running into the 9's with factory cylinder heads, which proves that in this situaton a twin cam head is a bit of a wank more than anything. Yes it would be of benefit, but when the result can be achieved without it then why bother with the difficulty and expense? [Report message to a moderator]

	Subject	Poster	Date
	who likes Commodores ?	mick	Sun, 09 May 2004 07:37
	Re: who likes Commodores ?	mick	Sun, 09 May 2004 07:44
	Re: who likes Commodores ?	V8_MA61	Sun, 09 May 2004 07:48
	Re: who likes Commodores ?	Camry_omega	Sun, 09 May 2004 08:05
	Re: who likes Commodores ?	smt_007	Sun, 09 May 2004 08:04
	Re: who likes Commodores ?	V8_MA61	Sun, 09 May 2004 08:41
	Re: who likes Commodores ?	lang	Sun, 09 May 2004 08:50
	Re: who likes Commodores ?	justcallmefrank	Sun, 09 May 2004 09:14
	Re: who likes Commodores ?	mick	Sun, 09 May 2004 09:58
	Re: who likes Commodores ?	Draza	Sun, 09 May 2004 10:03
	Re: who likes Commodores ?	TA22-3SGTE	Sun, 09 May 2004 11:29
	Re: who likes Commodores ?	finney	Sun, 09 May 2004 12:50
	Re: who likes Commodores ?	mick	Sun, 09 May 2004 12:53
	Re: who likes Commodores ?	DiZ_	Sun, 09 May 2004 13:07
	Re: who likes Commodores ?	YelloRolla	Sun, 09 May 2004 13:08
	Re: who likes Commodores ?	Jag7799	Sun, 09 May 2004 13:11
	Re: who likes Commodores ?	V8_MA61	Sun, 09 May 2004 13:23
	Re: who likes Commodores ?	justcallmefrank	Mon, 10 May 2004 08:07
	Re: who likes Commodores ?	mick	Mon, 10 May 2004 08:45
	Re: who likes Commodores ?	Jag7799	Sun, 09 May 2004 14:01
	Re: who likes Commodores ?	Shraka	Sun, 09 May 2004 14:17
	Re: who likes Commodores ?	RWDboy	Sun, 09 May 2004 15:10
	Re: who likes Commodores ?	Grega	Sun, 09 May 2004 21:02
	Re: who likes Commodores ?	bman	Sun, 09 May 2004 21:15
	Re: who likes Commodores ?	Lambolica	Sun, 09 May 2004 21:17
	Re: who likes Commodores ?	7M-Brisbane	Sun, 09 May 2004 23:58
	Re: who likes Commodores ?	mick	Mon, 10 May 2004 08:00
	Re: who likes Commodores ?	YelloRolla	Mon, 10 May 2004 09:26
	Re: who likes Commodores ?	mick	Mon, 10 May 2004 10:27
	Re: who likes Commodores ?	Camry_omega	Tue, 11 May 2004 07:57
	Re: who likes Commodores ?	mick	Tue, 11 May 2004 10:44
	Re: who likes Commodores ?	justcallmefrank	Wed, 12 May 2004 00:36
	Re: who likes Commodores ?	mick	Wed, 12 May 2004 06:58
	Re: who likes Commodores ?	YelloRolla	Wed, 12 May 2004 12:11
	Re: who likes Commodores ?	mick	Wed, 12 May 2004 12:32
	Re: who likes Commodores ?	YelloRolla	Tue, 11 May 2004 17:31
	Re: who likes Commodores ?	Jag7799	Mon, 10 May 2004 00:08
	Re: who likes Commodores ?	Youngy	Mon, 10 May 2004 00:54
	Re: who likes Commodores ?	Shraka	Mon, 10 May 2004 01:36
	Re: who likes Commodores ?	7M-Brisbane	Mon, 10 May 2004 01:59
	Re: who likes Commodores ?	Cressida Chick	Mon, 10 May 2004 03:53
	Re: who likes Commodores ?	checks202	Mon, 10 May 2004 05:04
	Re: who likes Commodores ?	SetMeFree	Mon, 10 May 2004 05:11
	Re: who likes Commodores ?	V8_MA61	Mon, 10 May 2004 07:34
	Re: who likes Commodores ?	Tommo	Mon, 10 May 2004 08:58
	Re: who likes Commodores ?	checks202	Mon, 10 May 2004 09:08
	Re: who likes Commodores ?	justcallmefrank	Mon, 10 May 2004 09:19
	Re: who likes Commodores ?	Cyber-punk	Mon, 10 May 2004 09:23
	Re: who likes Commodores ?	justcallmefrank	Mon, 10 May 2004 09:25
	Re: who likes Commodores ?	Mr DOHC	Mon, 10 May 2004 09:26
	Re: who likes Commodores ?	V8_MA61	Mon, 10 May 2004 09:27
	Re: who likes Commodores ?	YelloRolla	Mon, 10 May 2004 09:29
	Re: who likes Commodores ?	V8_MA61	Mon, 10 May 2004 09:33
	Re: who likes Commodores ?	Cyber-punk	Mon, 10 May 2004 09:45
	Re: who likes Commodores ?	V8_MA61	Mon, 10 May 2004 09:50
	Re: who likes Commodores ?	nicked	Mon, 10 May 2004 09:56
	Re: who likes Commodores ?	Jag7799	Mon, 10 May 2004 10:30
	Re: who likes Commodores ?	Tommo	Tue, 11 May 2004 05:51
	Re: who likes Commodores ?	Tommo	Tue, 11 May 2004 06:00
	Re: who likes Commodores ?	Caledwvech	Tue, 11 May 2004 06:47
	Re: who likes Commodores ?	Billy-Mason PI	Tue, 11 May 2004 07:13
	Re: who likes Commodores ?	mick	Tue, 11 May 2004 10:34
	Re: who likes Commodores ?	Lucid	Sat, 15 May 2004 23:56
	Re: who likes Commodores ?	mick	Sun, 16 May 2004 02:23
	Re: who likes Commodores ?	Bitza	Sun, 16 May 2004 03:27
	Re: who likes Commodores ?	V8_MA61	Tue, 11 May 2004 07:55
	Re: who likes Commodores ?	justcallmefrank	Tue, 11 May 2004 08:22
	Re: who likes Commodores ?	checks202	Tue, 11 May 2004 08:43
	Re: who likes Commodores ?	Mr DOHC	Tue, 11 May 2004 09:51
	Re: who likes Commodores ?	V8_MA61	Tue, 11 May 2004 11:48
	Re: who likes Commodores ?	Tommo	Tue, 11 May 2004 12:40
	Re: who likes Commodores ?	coronamark2	Wed, 12 May 2004 00:58
	Re: who likes Commodores ?	Bitza	Wed, 12 May 2004 10:42
	Re: who likes Commodores ?	mick	Wed, 12 May 2004 11:08
	Re: who likes Commodores ?	nicked	Wed, 12 May 2004 11:45
	Re: who likes Commodores ?	mick	Wed, 12 May 2004 12:01
	Re: who likes Commodores ?	YelloRolla	Wed, 12 May 2004 13:30
	Re: who likes Commodores ?	mick	Wed, 12 May 2004 14:01
	Re: who likes Commodores ?	lumpy	Thu, 13 May 2004 05:02
	Re: who likes Commodores ?	JZK25	Thu, 13 May 2004 09:46
	Re: who likes Commodores ?	V8_MA61	Fri, 14 May 2004 08:03
	Re: who likes Commodores ?	smt_007	Fri, 14 May 2004 11:57
	Re: who likes Commodores ?	mick	Fri, 14 May 2004 12:07
	Re: who likes Commodores ?	Camry_omega	Sat, 15 May 2004 00:58
	Re: who likes Commodores ?	cthulhu	Sat, 15 May 2004 11:31
	Re: who likes Commodores ?	YelloRolla	Sat, 15 May 2004 12:58
	Re: who likes Commodores ?	mick	Sat, 15 May 2004 13:16
	Re: who likes Commodores ?	7M-Brisbane	Sun, 16 May 2004 02:55
	Re: who likes Commodores ?	mick	Sun, 16 May 2004 03:39
	Re: who likes Commodores ?	Shraka	Sun, 16 May 2004 05:13
	Re: who likes Commodores ?	mick	Sun, 16 May 2004 05:44
	Re: who likes Commodores ?	Shraka	Sun, 16 May 2004 06:00
	Re: who likes Commodores ?	mick	Sun, 16 May 2004 06:28
	Re: who likes Commodores ?	mick	Sun, 16 May 2004 07:12
	Re: who likes Commodores ?	kingmick	Tue, 18 May 2004 04:23

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