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Re: who likes Commodores ?

Sun, 16 May 2004 03:39

7M-Brisbane wrote on Sun, 16 May 2004 12:55

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Both the 200sx and all those cars arent far of the VL moter

Possibly one of the more uneducated comments in this thread.

The SR20DE/DET as fitted to the 200SX/Silvia is actually a four cylinder as opposed to the six cylinder RB30E/RB30ET. The RB30E/RB30ET also run a single cam with a timing belt, as opposed to the chain-driven twin cams on the SR20DE/DET.

Or, are you commenting on the Skyline RB20/25/26 compared to the VL motor? They're both the same family of inline six cylinder engines, I'll give you that much... but the JDM RB engines were twin cam four valve heads as opposed to the single cam two valve RB30, not to mention the rocker arm setup on the RB30.... and then I can start on the fact that they run ceramic turbines, blah blah blah.

And as for copying Holden? Unfortunately well off the mark there kiddo, they're both Nissan-built engines.

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Commonwhores, they suck.

You, too, are a brain surgeon. How, pray, did you attain such eloquence?

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The V8s are okay but need alot of development if holden want to stick around much longer.

Can you say Chevrolet Gen III? How about Chevrolet Gen IV? Compare these engines to Toyota's finest local exploits... the MR2/Celica... both of which are pissant little motors that make about œ the power of the Commodore performance models. And before you start talking capacity, take into account the weight of the respective motors, the torque outputs and the outright on-road performance of the different cars. Holden wins every time over the beloved Toyotas.

I can't believe comments like these are coming from a bunch of people who think that 18Rs and 2Ts are modern technology.

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they are nothing more than a family car GET OVER IT

If that was directed at me, I have nothing to 'get over'. I wouldn't be likely to buy any Commodore aside from another VL, I am just saying that they are not 'puss buckets' and perform their intended function rather well.

Unlike Toyota, at least Holden still produce cars that are interesting.

Um that post was not aimed directly at you as that post was written before you posted anything on this thread fair enough you like VL's as I said before I have a soft spot for the VL but would never own one due to the fact the majority of every model Commodore VB-VY seems to be driven very hard by a lot of people. If you treat a car like shit it will treat you like shit so thats why I tend to keep away from them. Thats why I think the majority of them are "puss buckets" also as well there are some good ones that have been looked after but the rest I wouldn't go near with a ten foot pole. As saying for performance they do there job but think you can do much better then a Commodore if you want a fast car. Unlike Holden, Toyota's are much more reliable have better engines and don't have rear ends that look like Magna's I'd prefer a EFI Toyota over any Holden any day and are also usually cheaper to run with the exception of a few models Holden haven't made an interesting car in over 20 years.Oh and this is coming from someone who has owned a Holden (but not a Commodore but had the Same motor that Came out in Some Commodores) a WB Holden ute with a 202 Blue motor wasn't a bad car but didn't have the ugly looks of the VC and hadn't been thrashed Holden wins every time over the beloved Toyota True in someways anf false in others I've seen plenty of Commodores and HSV's for that mattter get beat by Toyota's and slower Toyota's would have an advantage over a Commodore as a Commodore doesn't handle as well as a say a slower Celica/MR2 (not saying there slow have seen some of them give a V8 Commodore a good hiding) on a Straight maybe but not on a road with plenty of twist and turns the Toyota's would come on top every time

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