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bubbles Forums Junkie Banned user Location: Liverpool NSW Registered: March 2004	Re: Why wont Toyota create a new gen Rwd-Vvti-sprinter? Fri, 21 January 2005 08:35 st184 sillycar wrote on Wed, 19 January 2005 11:22 It's all well and good to say "toyota should build xxxx RWD car, they'd sell enough etc. etc." - But do you know how much it costs to design and engineer a new car? do you know how many years ahead car makers have to plan ahead for a new model? Do you know how much profit cars actually make nowadays? For a new body on a mix of existing drivetrain and suspension components, you're talking minimum aus$700 million (don't even bother with new engine + new body + new drivetrain). That's if you only want 1 major body style, b.t.w. - start adding around $100 million per hatchback/2door/3door/4door/5door sister model. To manufacture a decent car on the cheap, costs around $15,000, plus around $5,000 to $8,000 in labour, transport, storage, quality control etc. etc. - now do the maths on how many you've got to sell to make the development costs back if you price them "affordably", i.e. $25,000 or $30,000 Even if they had a market today for a cheap, quick RWD car, they've got a lead time of conception to release of 5-8 years. What if the market's changed when the car's released? -D'ya geddit? (This is why the S2000 is like, $75,000 - for a bloody 4 cylinder!) Thats why renault bought nissan [Report message to a moderator]

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	Why wont Toyota create a new gen Rwd-Vvti-sprinter?	davit	Sat, 15 January 2005 06:10
	Re: Why wont Toyota create a new gen Rwd-Vvti-sprinter?	ShiRi	Sat, 15 January 2005 06:19
	Re: Why wont Toyota create a new gen Rwd-Vvti-sprinter?	Camry_omega	Sat, 15 January 2005 06:40
	Re: Why wont Toyota create a new gen Rwd-Vvti-sprinter?	davit	Sat, 15 January 2005 06:45
	Re: Why wont Toyota create a new gen Rwd-Vvti-sprinter?	draven	Sat, 15 January 2005 06:47
	Re: Why wont Toyota create a new gen Rwd-Vvti-sprinter?	bathurst-91	Sat, 15 January 2005 09:05
	Re: Why wont Toyota create a new gen Rwd-Vvti-sprinter?	ae86drift	Sat, 15 January 2005 09:08
	Re: Why wont Toyota create a new gen Rwd-Vvti-sprinter?	draven	Sat, 15 January 2005 09:17
	Re: Why wont Toyota create a new gen Rwd-Vvti-sprinter?	draven	Sat, 15 January 2005 09:18
	Re: Why wont Toyota create a new gen Rwd-Vvti-sprinter?	ae86drift	Sat, 15 January 2005 09:27
	Re: Why wont Toyota create a new gen Rwd-Vvti-sprinter?	RobST162	Sat, 15 January 2005 09:36
	Re: Why wont Toyota create a new gen Rwd-Vvti-sprinter?	ae86drift	Sat, 15 January 2005 09:47
	Re: Why wont Toyota create a new gen Rwd-Vvti-sprinter?	draven	Sat, 15 January 2005 09:53
	Re: Why wont Toyota create a new gen Rwd-Vvti-sprinter?	ae86drift	Sat, 15 January 2005 10:18
	Re: Why wont Toyota create a new gen Rwd-Vvti-sprinter?	bubbles	Sat, 15 January 2005 10:20
	Re: Why wont Toyota create a new gen Rwd-Vvti-sprinter?	draven	Sat, 15 January 2005 10:35
	Re: Why wont Toyota create a new gen Rwd-Vvti-sprinter?	ae86drift	Sat, 15 January 2005 10:46
	Re: Why wont Toyota create a new gen Rwd-Vvti-sprinter?	shovelnose	Sat, 15 January 2005 09:43
	Re: Why wont Toyota create a new gen Rwd-Vvti-sprinter?	Intensevil	Sat, 15 January 2005 11:05
	Re: Why wont Toyota create a new gen Rwd-Vvti-sprinter?	ae86drift	Sat, 15 January 2005 11:06
	Re: Why wont Toyota create a new gen Rwd-Vvti-sprinter?	tyottsoarer	Sat, 15 January 2005 12:12
	Re: Why wont Toyota create a new gen Rwd-Vvti-sprinter?	davit	Sat, 15 January 2005 12:14
	Re: Why wont Toyota create a new gen Rwd-Vvti-sprinter?	thu187	Sat, 15 January 2005 16:04
	Re: Why wont Toyota create a new gen Rwd-Vvti-sprinter?	Intensevil	Sat, 15 January 2005 12:15
	Re: Why wont Toyota create a new gen Rwd-Vvti-sprinter?	Classique71	Sat, 15 January 2005 12:50
	Re: Why wont Toyota create a new gen Rwd-Vvti-sprinter?	rthy	Sat, 15 January 2005 13:28
	Re: Why wont Toyota create a new gen Rwd-Vvti-sprinter?	thu187	Sat, 15 January 2005 16:12
	Re: Why wont Toyota create a new gen Rwd-Vvti-sprinter?	CoronaC	Sat, 15 January 2005 14:08
	Re: Why wont Toyota create a new gen Rwd-Vvti-sprinter?	st184 sillycar	Sat, 15 January 2005 14:35
	Re: Why wont Toyota create a new gen Rwd-Vvti-sprinter?	nash_tz	Sat, 15 January 2005 14:33
	Re: Why wont Toyota create a new gen Rwd-Vvti-sprinter?	KOFFEE-BLACK	Sat, 15 January 2005 23:16
	Re: Why wont Toyota create a new gen Rwd-Vvti-sprinter?	on_b00st	Wed, 22 June 2005 09:37
	Re: Why wont Toyota create a new gen Rwd-Vvti-sprinter?	nash_tz	Sat, 15 January 2005 17:08
	Re: Why wont Toyota create a new gen Rwd-Vvti-sprinter?	olihaub	Sun, 16 January 2005 09:33
	Re: Why wont Toyota create a new gen Rwd-Vvti-sprinter?	nash_tz	Sun, 16 January 2005 09:52
	Re: Why wont Toyota create a new gen Rwd-Vvti-sprinter?	Classique71	Sun, 16 January 2005 10:18
	Re: Why wont Toyota create a new gen Rwd-Vvti-sprinter?	olihaub	Sun, 16 January 2005 11:01
	Re: Why wont Toyota create a new gen Rwd-Vvti-sprinter?	Classique71	Sun, 16 January 2005 11:15
	Re: Why wont Toyota create a new gen Rwd-Vvti-sprinter?	olihaub	Sun, 16 January 2005 11:43
	Re: Why wont Toyota create a new gen Rwd-Vvti-sprinter?	bubbles	Sat, 15 January 2005 23:45
	Re: Why wont Toyota create a new gen Rwd-Vvti-sprinter?	shcao	Sun, 16 January 2005 00:23
	Re: Why wont Toyota create a new gen Rwd-Vvti-sprinter?	4DaDrift	Sun, 16 January 2005 06:09
	Re: Why wont Toyota create a new gen Rwd-Vvti-sprinter?	rthy	Sun, 16 January 2005 07:49
	Re: Why wont Toyota create a new gen Rwd-Vvti-sprinter?	thu187	Mon, 17 January 2005 11:12
	Re: Why wont Toyota create a new gen Rwd-Vvti-sprinter?	nash_tz	Sun, 16 January 2005 00:16
	Re: Why wont Toyota create a new gen Rwd-Vvti-sprinter?	Henn	Sun, 16 January 2005 01:54
	Re: Why wont Toyota create a new gen Rwd-Vvti-sprinter?	shovelnose	Sun, 16 January 2005 03:22
	Re: Why wont Toyota create a new gen Rwd-Vvti-sprinter?	indigoid	Sun, 16 January 2005 05:22
	Re: Why wont Toyota create a new gen Rwd-Vvti-sprinter?	davit	Sun, 16 January 2005 05:23
	Re: Why wont Toyota create a new gen Rwd-Vvti-sprinter?	TRD_Supra	Sun, 16 January 2005 06:27
	Re: Why wont Toyota create a new gen Rwd-Vvti-sprinter?	Camry_omega	Sun, 16 January 2005 07:25
	Re: Why wont Toyota create a new gen Rwd-Vvti-sprinter?	SEXY 16	Sun, 16 January 2005 09:09
	Re: Why wont Toyota create a new gen Rwd-Vvti-sprinter?	Intensevil	Sun, 16 January 2005 11:42
	Re: Why wont Toyota create a new gen Rwd-Vvti-sprinter?	davedrifts	Sun, 16 January 2005 11:53
	Re: Why wont Toyota create a new gen Rwd-Vvti-sprinter?	bubbles	Mon, 17 January 2005 00:51
	Re: Why wont Toyota create a new gen Rwd-Vvti-sprinter?	4DaDrift	Mon, 17 January 2005 06:44
	Re: Why wont Toyota create a new gen Rwd-Vvti-sprinter?	shinybluesteel	Mon, 17 January 2005 07:12
	Re: Why wont Toyota create a new gen Rwd-Vvti-sprinter?	SEXY 16	Tue, 18 January 2005 10:00
	Re: Why wont Toyota create a new gen Rwd-Vvti-sprinter?	st184 sillycar	Wed, 19 January 2005 00:22
	Re: Why wont Toyota create a new gen Rwd-Vvti-sprinter?	st184 sillycar	Fri, 21 January 2005 04:46
	Re: Why wont Toyota create a new gen Rwd-Vvti-sprinter?	bubbles	Fri, 21 January 2005 08:35
	Re: Why wont Toyota create a new gen Rwd-Vvti-sprinter?	kenevill	Fri, 21 January 2005 11:41
	Re: Why wont Toyota create a new gen Rwd-Vvti-sprinter?	bubbles	Mon, 17 January 2005 09:29
	Re: Why wont Toyota create a new gen Rwd-Vvti-sprinter?	ae86drift	Mon, 17 January 2005 09:48
	Re: Why wont Toyota create a new gen Rwd-Vvti-sprinter?	Corona RT142	Mon, 17 January 2005 01:06
	Re: Why wont Toyota create a new gen Rwd-Vvti-sprinter?	Intensevil	Mon, 17 January 2005 01:55
	Re: Why wont Toyota create a new gen Rwd-Vvti-sprinter?	bubbles	Mon, 17 January 2005 09:33
	Re: Why wont Toyota create a new gen Rwd-Vvti-sprinter?	bubbles	Mon, 17 January 2005 09:41
	Re: Why wont Toyota create a new gen Rwd-Vvti-sprinter?	Classique71	Mon, 17 January 2005 10:03
	Re: Why wont Toyota create a new gen Rwd-Vvti-sprinter?	ae86drift	Mon, 17 January 2005 10:06
	Re: Why wont Toyota create a new gen Rwd-Vvti-sprinter?	Classique71	Mon, 17 January 2005 10:10
	Re: Why wont Toyota create a new gen Rwd-Vvti-sprinter?	Corona RT142	Mon, 17 January 2005 02:27
	Re: Why wont Toyota create a new gen Rwd-Vvti-sprinter?	alliance_22	Mon, 17 January 2005 03:19
	Re: Why wont Toyota create a new gen Rwd-Vvti-sprinter?	indigoid	Mon, 17 January 2005 06:06
	Re: Why wont Toyota create a new gen Rwd-Vvti-sprinter?	nash_tz	Mon, 17 January 2005 06:35
	Re: Why wont Toyota create a new gen Rwd-Vvti-sprinter?	4DaDrift	Mon, 17 January 2005 06:56
	Re: Why wont Toyota create a new gen Rwd-Vvti-sprinter?	nash_tz	Mon, 17 January 2005 07:14
	Re: Why wont Toyota create a new gen Rwd-Vvti-sprinter?	MKIII_Supra	Fri, 24 June 2005 01:20
	Re: Why wont Toyota create a new gen Rwd-Vvti-sprinter?	Yeeehah	Mon, 17 January 2005 06:23
	Re: Why wont Toyota create a new gen Rwd-Vvti-sprinter?	Yeeehah	Mon, 17 January 2005 06:27
	Re: Why wont Toyota create a new gen Rwd-Vvti-sprinter?	Clown	Tue, 08 February 2005 07:25
	Re: Why wont Toyota create a new gen Rwd-Vvti-sprinter?	trevtrev	Fri, 24 June 2005 05:15
	Re: Why wont Toyota create a new gen Rwd-Vvti-sprinter?	bubbles	Fri, 24 June 2005 05:18
	Re: Why wont Toyota create a new gen Rwd-Vvti-sprinter?	THE WITZL	Mon, 17 January 2005 21:03
	Re: Why wont Toyota create a new gen Rwd-Vvti-sprinter?	bathurst-91	Mon, 17 January 2005 21:48
	Re: Why wont Toyota create a new gen Rwd-Vvti-sprinter?	HOT40K	Mon, 17 January 2005 22:39
	Re: Why wont Toyota create a new gen Rwd-Vvti-sprinter?	rob_RA40	Mon, 17 January 2005 22:49
	Re: Why wont Toyota create a new gen Rwd-Vvti-sprinter?	THE WITZL	Tue, 18 January 2005 00:00
	Re: Why wont Toyota create a new gen Rwd-Vvti-sprinter?	tom210	Wed, 22 June 2005 08:27
	Re: Why wont Toyota create a new gen Rwd-Vvti-sprinter?	Corona RT142	Tue, 18 January 2005 00:03
	Re: Why wont Toyota create a new gen Rwd-Vvti-sprinter?	nash_tz	Tue, 18 January 2005 00:33
	Re: Why wont Toyota create a new gen Rwd-Vvti-sprinter?	Corona RT142	Tue, 18 January 2005 00:41
	Re: Why wont Toyota create a new gen Rwd-Vvti-sprinter?	skellator	Tue, 18 January 2005 06:02
	Re: Why wont Toyota create a new gen Rwd-Vvti-sprinter?	nash_tz	Tue, 18 January 2005 06:02
	Re: Why wont Toyota create a new gen Rwd-Vvti-sprinter?	Shraka	Fri, 21 January 2005 12:55
	Re: Why wont Toyota create a new gen Rwd-Vvti-sprinter?	Kr0n1k	Tue, 08 February 2005 01:04
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	Re: Why wont Toyota create a new gen Rwd-Vvti-sprinter?	86DRFT	Wed, 09 February 2005 07:36
	Re: Why wont Toyota create a new gen Rwd-Vvti-sprinter?	chrisss	Wed, 09 February 2005 10:02
	Re: Why wont Toyota create a new gen Rwd-Vvti-sprinter?	nash_tz	Wed, 09 February 2005 10:20
	Re: Why wont Toyota create a new gen Rwd-Vvti-sprinter?	rotor_life	Fri, 11 February 2005 11:25
	Re: Why wont Toyota create a new gen Rwd-Vvti-sprinter?	rotor_life	Fri, 11 February 2005 11:26
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	Re: Why wont Toyota create a new gen Rwd-Vvti-sprinter?	rotor_life	Fri, 11 February 2005 11:26
	Re: Why wont Toyota create a new gen Rwd-Vvti-sprinter?	rotor_life	Fri, 11 February 2005 11:26
	Re: Why wont Toyota create a new gen Rwd-Vvti-sprinter?	Corona RT142	Wed, 16 February 2005 02:52
	Re: Why wont Toyota create a new gen Rwd-Vvti-sprinter?	st184 sillycar	Wed, 22 June 2005 23:55
	Re: Why wont Toyota create a new gen Rwd-Vvti-sprinter?	hickoz_bro	Thu, 23 June 2005 00:18
	Re: Why wont Toyota create a new gen Rwd-Vvti-sprinter?	Corona RT142	Thu, 23 June 2005 00:30
	Re: Why wont Toyota create a new gen Rwd-Vvti-sprinter?	Camry_omega	Thu, 23 June 2005 04:52
	Re: Why wont Toyota create a new gen Rwd-Vvti-sprinter?	Corona RT142	Wed, 16 February 2005 02:54
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	Re: Why wont Toyota create a new gen Rwd-Vvti-sprinter?	Merudo	Tue, 21 June 2005 06:23
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