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Re: Exhaust Myth... Fact or Fiction? Thu, 10 February 2005 02:16 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
I know this may sound silly, but back pressure IS required on most Normally aspirated cars.. not all. Less back pressure is required on multi valve engines than push rod V8's

Having formally worked in the exhaust trade, I have done a little study into it, see dyno charts and spoken to people that design headers for off the shelf purchase to V8 supercar.

The reason it is required is acually to assist in drawing more air from the next cylinder after it fires, if there is no back pressure, there is no vaccum behind each pulse of exhaust flow, therefore not sucking it through, slowing down the exhaust flow and decreasing the efficency of your valves. Why does it vary from pushrod to multivalve.. simple, more valves = more exit points for the gasses.

What I have seen, is that Not all n/a cars require it. A good example is the majority of Honda VTEC engines, for whatever reason, they work much better without back pressure.
Another example of the oppisate is the genIII LS1 motor, the ideal exhaust setup was actually the one that nobody purchased.. everyone wanted the big bore twin 2 1/2 inch.. rather than the system that worked best.. twin 2 1/4" into single 3" rear.

Hope I havent been too vauge.. But with exhaust.. there is no deadfast rule, it depends on head design, aspiration, mods, and about 100 other things.

As for turbo's.. well thats a different concept all together... and yes, you do want some back pressure.. but a whole 1 to 3 pound (which is next to nothing)and the end of the dump has been what most have found to ideal for a torqey street setup, so no not every turbo needs that big mutha 3 inch system. Usually a top dump pipe design will make more usable power than that big bore exhaust system you just spent a fortune on.

Before you deciede on what exhaust you want.. go and talk to a pro.. most exhaust places will have someone there who has some expierence with hi end exhausts.. they know much better than you or me!!!
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