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Re: P PLATERS!!! ENGINE MODS ARE OUT!!! Tue, 07 June 2005 17:33 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
I'm starting to think they have a real point.
We know P plater fatalaties have increased because there are more P platers out there than ever (3 years as opposed to just 1) but the power of cars has increased alot as well. I mean in 87 your standard corolla was 67kw (somewhere around there). Today your standard corolla has a 100kw engine and we have the 'Sportivo' branded Corollas and Camrys which are predominantly family passenger cars.
Maybe I didn't pay attention earlier but I don't seem to remember too many fatalities. This is either because not as many fatalaties occurred or the media didn't take an interest and failed to report them. Perhaps someone older can fill me in?
Logically however:

  • The faster you drive
  • The less control you have
  • The more likely you are to lose control and have an accident

With the progession of cars being more powerful it is easier than ever to increase speeds. Dickheads will be dickheads while they're young. You can't force people to change their attitudes which is why the only option is to restrict them. By restricting what car they are in you at least lower the potential danger. A dickhead in a Twin Turbo Supra has a far greater potential to cause damage than the same dickhead in a 4ac Corolla.

As for everyone saying "NOO! I HAVE TO SELL MY CAR!", no you don't. Current P platers are not subject to the restrictons.

To the next bunch of P platers I say:
Tough luck. The latest generation always gets fucked over. L's tests and booklets used to be free. You were able to go for you P's without a log book of 50 hours. You only had to remain on your P's for one year before moving on to your full license.

Do you REALLY need a turbo-charged car to get around? I'm not going to talk about the skills you learn over time but instead how about saving some money on insurance? Stick with a cheap reliable car, then when you're older and on your full license (hopefully without any accidents because you havent been driving a turbocharged car around) your insurance will be lower and you won't have had to pay a small fortune over the last 3 years.

If you DO need a high performance car or you have no choice but to drive one then the Government says it's ok and you needn't worry.

Hooray for the new restrictions. Smile
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