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Re: PARALLEL Twincharging, lets make it work Tue, 23 August 2005 08:33 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
oldcorollas wrote on Tue, 23 August 2005 18:05


if some of you boffins out there can design a stepper motor controller system to control, that can reference TPS and a couple of pressure measurements (using motorola MAP sensors?).. then we could be in business Wink (not literally Razz)
how much force can steppers motors exert (against air pressure and return spring pressure)? how fast can they move? and how accurate could they be for a sub-90deg movement?

how easy would it be to have the characteristics programmable??

i do have a motorola MC68HC09 (sp?) programmer Wink they are pretty cheap and easy to reprogram from scratch (if you have a compiler Sad ) the MS code has been written in both assembler and C already....

hmmmmmmmmmm..... but this takes away from the DIY junkyard approach... but then again... it could start a whole new MS-like community of crazy bastards wanting to run stupidly big turbos on tiny poor little engines Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad



Well, in the prototyping phase, I think a mechanical approach is significantly cheaper, and easier to instantiate, but in the modern age, an electronic system would be much more tuneable.

As far as stepper motors are concerned, they come in all shapes, sizes and mechanical ratings. The step (in degrees) varies between motor models, but many are more accurate than you could imagine! The controllers are easy enough to make (I knew my electronics engineering units would serve a purpose!), and some highly versatile models are available from Jaycar in kit form.

The controller you design directly relates to the versatility of the motor, and you could do it a couple of ways. You could reference from, say, an ECU signal, or a pressure signal, or a separate microcontroller setup as a "boost control unit" dedicated to the twincharge setup which would complement a basic ECU.

I think doing this in the latter fashion, following the proven success of the mechanical prototype, OEM type smoothness and reliability could be achieved.

Now I am in my zone! Laughing An entire world filled with numbers, hypotheses, perfectionism and eternal contradiction! I likey this discussion! Cool I come to toymods as a break from uni assignments and I end up dedicating thought to the exercise! Laughing
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