Toymods Car Club Inc: General Car Talk => Highway Robbery

Toymods Car Club
www.toymods.org.au

F.A.Q.

Home

Members

Toymods » General Car Talk » Highway Robbery - Bruce Josephs Aug 2005 Show: Today's Posts :: Show Polls Email to friend

Author

Topic

86tt
Forums Junkie

Location:
Sydney
Registered:
August 2004

Re: Highway Robbery - Bruce Josephs Aug 2005

Wed, 09 November 2005 08:49

Quote:

Don't get me wrong, speed cameras are a revenue raiser more so than a safety tool. But all everyone ever does is fkn whinge about them and rarely does anyone ever address the other issues or offer alternatives to curb the road toll.

There are plenty of alternatives, but because 30% of voters don't drive, 40% of the voters don't care because they think it won't affect them, 20% of the people really believe "Speed Kills" then you're left with 10% of the people that really knows where the problem is and how to improve the situation, but couldn't do a thing!!!

Quote:

Evasive manouvres are not part of their skill set unfortunately.

Surprises happens everyday, and I think people that are not able to react calmly and get out of a dangerous situation while driving a vehicle, shouldn't get a license in the first place, that's a problem with our education part of things.

Quote:

unless the road is slippery/non-ideal.. sayy, a loose scattering of gravel.. some oil from passing cars... then regardless off your tyre and brake package, you are still fucked.

This can be improved by improving the overall "skill" level of the drivers, if people are paying attention to the "traffic flow", when one good driver spots the hazard and slows down, the rest should slow down and maintain the "safety gap/margin"

Quote:

how hard is it to just drive a little UNDER the speed limit.. it takes far less attention than all those retards who try to stay a given amount ABOVE the limit..... heck, just drive at the limit and you are fine

This shows how ignorant you are to the problem, so you think this "speed limit" is a magic number? The speed limit have nothing to do with accident and injury rates, you can have the speed limit at 60, and if we're all perfect humans, we'll all drive at 55, you'd think we're safe, but the "risk takers" are going to bolt out in front of you thinking they've "timed" it right, and there's enough margin to clear it, BANG, someone gets killed, alright now, you reduce the speed limit to 50km/h, you think you're safe, then again, this "risk taker" is still going to bolt out right in front of you, although you're driving at 50km/h, again, thinking they've "timed" it right, and again, BANG! Someone gets killed, get the picture? So how slow is safe? You think 60km/h is safe, but 50km/h is safer, and so is 40km/h compared to 50km/h and so on, so what speed is safe? 0km/h?

The fact is, someone is still going to rear end another car "thinking" it was green light, t-bones are still going to happen because they thought they've timed it right, head-on collision is still going to happen because they thought they had enough time to overtake although they didn't see the other car in the opposite direction? Beginners is still going to wrap around the pole thinking they've rounded the corner at the right and safe speed.

So what is wrong? Did someone get killed because he was driving 20km/h over the "magic number" limit? Or did someone get killed because some incompetent driver drove right in the path of another moving vehicle? Do you think you will save lives by reducing the speed limit? How about saving lives by requesting higher skill levels for drivers before they get their license instead?

There are alternatives, but in this world, it's too hard to change anything, mostly because of the existence of people like oldcorollas, he'll probably come back and post something like this...

Quote:

"which colision are you more likely to walk away from unhurt (considering cars are built to a 55km/hr crash test)

50km/hr

or

100km/hr

think about this, even if your car were built to a 55km/h crash test, if a 55km/h crash happened, you're probably brain dead as the inertia of your brain gets crushed inside your skull, your body may still be unhurt, you'll die in one piece! Fancy that? The key is to reduce the chance of collsion, this can only be done by education/training, and traffic flow management, and higher speed limit may even get you off the road earlier, as the longer you stay on the road, the more chance for you to get killed! And this is a fact!

[Report message to a moderator]

[Message index]

-=] Back to Top [=-

Current Time: Fri May 17 00:13:00 UTC 2024

Total time taken to generate the page: 0.0063669681549072 seconds

.:: Contact :: Home ::.