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old school supras article
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Tue, 17 February 2004 13:44
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there was an article in the paper on saturday on old school supras- namely the ma61 and ma70 series.
it has a few errors, but hey, theres a nice pic everyone thought was my car 
ill scan it up and chuck it here, if you guys like... 
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Canberra
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August 2002
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Re: old school supras article
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Tue, 17 February 2004 14:05
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yeah yeah scann it up!
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Ballarat, Victoria
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Re: old school supras article
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Tue, 17 February 2004 15:08
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okay here it is, 56k users beware.
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c'town, NSW
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Re: old school supras article
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Tue, 17 February 2004 23:26
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whoever wrote the article is a dope.
2.8 litre turbo? yeah ok 5M-GTE MA70 no worries
those prefferring the precsison and stability of european sports cars should aim at later model supras? MA61 suspension is tuned by lotus!
poor article written from wrong information from internet, writer has never driven one. 
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Brisbane
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July 2002
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Re: old school supras article
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Wed, 18 February 2004 01:12
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guys a faggot.. he fucked up so many things in the article and made the supra sound plain
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Re: old school supras article
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Wed, 18 February 2004 02:46
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The 1989 comparison of the Supra and the RX7 said "he Supra didn't know whether it wanted to be a luxury car or a sports car". Maybe that guy dug up the same review. 
http://members.iinet.net.au/~awcabren/Old%20Review s/
PS: I don't know anything about Supras but I was pretty sure there was no 2.8L Turbo.
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Re: old school supras article
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Wed, 18 February 2004 03:15
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16 second 1/4 mile for the supra.... this guys a tard
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Melbourne
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November 2003
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Re: old school supras article
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Wed, 18 February 2004 03:27
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MA60/61 - 5M-GE/GTE (3.0ltr)
MA70/71 - 7M-GE/GTE (3.0ltr)
GA70/(71?) - 1G-GE/GTE (2.0ltr)
JZA70 - 1JZ-GE/GTE (2.5ltr)
JZA80 - 2JZ-GE/GTE (3.0ltr)
And the Supra never came with a targa top, it came with an Aero top. Targa's have a bar across the middle and are usualy made out of lighter material. Aeros are solid bits of roof that come off.
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Re: old school supras article
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Wed, 18 February 2004 03:44
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there was a 2.8 in there though.. im sure of it
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Re: old school supras article
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Wed, 18 February 2004 05:28
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| Shraka wrote on Wed, 18 February 2004 13:27 |
MA60/61 - 5M-GE/GTE (3.0ltr)
MA70/71 - 7M-GE/GTE (3.0ltr)
GA70/(71?) - 1G-GE/GTE (2.0ltr)
JZA70 - 1JZ-GE/GTE (2.5ltr)
JZA80 - 2JZ-GE/GTE (3.0ltr)
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Well you got about half of that right.
- The 5M is a 2.8 litre engine
- There was never a 5M-GTE
- The GA70 was not available with a 1G-GE (imagine how slow it would be!)
- The JZA70 was not available with a 1JZ-GE (ditto).
You also missed a few other models, eg:
- MA63: M-TEU (2.0 litre turbo)
- GA60: 1G-EU (2.0 litre)
Check your facts before you try correcting others...
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Canterbury, Sydney
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March 2003
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Re: old school supras article
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Wed, 18 February 2004 05:33
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Has anyone thought of doing a comprehensive article on the MA61 and all it's mod possibilities and cult following in Oz? Possibly for one of the major car magz?
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Re: old school supras article
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Wed, 18 February 2004 06:04
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and include other cars based on the same floor pan 
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Re: old school supras article
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Wed, 18 February 2004 06:10
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| Norbie wrote on Wed, 18 February 2004 16:28 |
- The GA70 was not available with a 1G-GE (imagine how slow it would be!)
Check your facts before you try correcting others...
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careful what you say norbie the GA70 DID come with a 1G-GE
photo evidence here
this was my GA70 front cut.
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Re: old school supras article
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Wed, 18 February 2004 06:14
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| rob_RA40 wrote on Wed, 18 February 2004 17:10 |
| Norbie wrote on Wed, 18 February 2004 16:28 |
- The GA70 was not available with a 1G-GE (imagine how slow it would be!)
Check your facts before you try correcting others...
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careful what you say norbie the GA70 DID come with a 1G-GE
photo evidence here
this was my GA70 front cut.
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thats fucking wrong
my 1g geu can barely push my gz10(1200kg) in low rpm... let alone almost 1600
i guess its manual transmission
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Re: old school supras article
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Wed, 18 February 2004 06:14
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| Shraka wrote on Wed, 18 February 2004 14:27 |
And the Supra never came with a targa top, it came with an Aero top. Targa's have a bar across the middle and are usualy made out of lighter material. Aeros are solid bits of roof that come off.
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aerotop is just another name for it cooked up by marketing at toyota for some reason. targa means "plate", so targa top can be either.
and yes there is no such thing as a 5M-GTE
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Re: old school supras article
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Wed, 18 February 2004 06:24
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there is.. just not from factory...
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Re: old school supras article
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Wed, 18 February 2004 07:48
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| rob_RA40 wrote on Wed, 18 February 2004 16:10 |
careful what you say norbie the GA70 DID come with a 1G-GE
photo evidence here
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Shut down!!
Well I'll be damned. I've heard rumours of povo GA70 Supras, but never seen actual evidence until now. It would have to be painfully slow with an atmo 2 litre hauling that sort of weight... it wouldn't be 1600kg but probably at least 1400.
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I supported Toymods
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Re: old school supras article
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Wed, 18 February 2004 12:59
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Brisbane, QLD
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Re: old school supras article
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Wed, 18 February 2004 13:03
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you can get targa top mk2's as well as mk3's
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Re: old school supras article
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Wed, 18 February 2004 13:17
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What about the Porsche Targa?
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Re: old school supras article
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Wed, 18 February 2004 22:22
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MK3 isn't realy targa, as shown. It's Aero. Targa has a bar through the middle.
| Norbie wrote on Wed, 18 February 2004 16:28 |
Well you got about half of that right.
- The 5M is a 2.8 litre engine
- There was never a 5M-GTE
- The GA70 was not available with a 1G-GE (imagine how slow it would be!)
- The JZA70 was not available with a 1JZ-GE (ditto).
You also missed a few other models, eg:
- MA63: M-TEU (2.0 litre turbo)
- GA60: 1G-EU (2.0 litre)
Check your facts before you try correcting others...
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Yeah, I think your right, I don't think there was a 1JZ-GE. However, I think that if there was a 1JZ-GE (back in 1990, there is one now with VVT-i), it would probably make similar power to the 7M-GE.
So yeah, the list looks more like this:
GA60 - 1G-EU (2.0ltr)
MA63 - M-TEU (2.0ltr) - No intercooler apparently
MA60 - 5M-GE (2.8ltr)
MA70 - 7M-GE/GTE (3.0ltr)
GA70 - 1G-GE/GTE (2.0ltr)
JZA70 - 1JZ-GTE (2.5ltr)
JZA80 - 2JZ-GE/GTE (3.0ltr)
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Re: old school supras article
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Wed, 18 February 2004 22:51
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| Shraka wrote on Thu, 19 February 2004 09:22 |
GA60 - 1G-EU (2.0ltr)
MA63 - M-TEU (2.0ltr) - No intercooler apparently
MA60 - 5M-GE (2.8ltr)
MA70 - 7M-GE/GTE (3.0ltr)
GA70 - 1G-GE/GTE (2.0ltr)
JZA70 - 1JZ-GTE (2.5ltr)
JZA80 - 2JZ-GE/GTE (3.0ltr)
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your still missing some.
GA60 1G-GE
MA63 - M-TEU - water to air intercooler
MA61 - 5M-E
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Re: old school supras article
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Thu, 19 February 2004 01:02
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You can add the 1G-E GA70 as well (yes a single-cam 2.0lt in a GA70!)
Also, how about the MK1 Supras?
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Re: old school supras article
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Thu, 19 February 2004 01:38
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I thought the SOHC 1G engines were discontinued before the GA70 was released? Not certain about that though.
As for the Mk1 Supra, they came with the 4M-E and later 5M-E. Does anyone know of any others?
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Re: old school supras article
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Thu, 19 February 2004 01:48
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MA45 came out with the M-EU.
MA46 had the 4M-E.
MA47 had the 5M-E.
As a side note, in Japan, the top models of the Corona Mk2 had the M-EU back in 1976.
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Re: old school supras article
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Thu, 19 February 2004 02:19
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Can we actually get a definative list and put it up on the Articles section of this site??
also, I can't get to the 1GGE supra page, link isn't working?
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Melbourne
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Re: old school supras article
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Thu, 19 February 2004 02:27
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I've driven a GA70 with a 1G-E. Pathetic!
As for MK1 Supras; yes, in the U.S. MA46 had 4ME and MA47 had 5ME. In the Japan, badged as XX Celica, the MA45 had MEU and MA46 had 4MEU. Though many people don't believe the XX Celica and Supra are one and the same.
According to a number people I have encountered over the years the XX Celica is 'just' and Celica and Celicas never came with a 6 cylinder engine!
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Re: old school supras article
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Thu, 19 February 2004 05:19
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nope
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Re: old school supras article
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Thu, 19 February 2004 05:36
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| Cyber-punk wrote on Thu, 19 February 2004 00:03 |
you can get targa top mk2's as well as mk3's
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Negative.
When i was in Perth i had the privledge of actually seeing a MA61 with a true targa top. Talked to the owner, previous owner was a lawyer and had it professionally done aftermarket.
Looked pretty damn good but the downside.......he has replaced 3 windscreens. Also boasts a 1ggte.
But this argument has been had before, the MA61 did not come with a targa top from the toyota factory. It MAY have been a dealer option or an aftermarket fitiment, but none would be genuine toyota parts!
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Re: old school supras article
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Thu, 19 February 2004 10:32
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What about the Porsche Targa?
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I am glad someone piped up with that, because I believe that Targa is actually a proprietary name/registered trademark. Don't quote me on that, but I have a feeling....
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Re: old school supras article
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Thu, 19 February 2004 10:41
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Registered trademark of who? 'cuz Nissan states that it's 300zx has a targa top sooo.
I think we should get together and write down some info like stats, curb weights, names and engines and stuff and stuff of all Toyotas and chuck them on the articles page.
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Ballarat, Victoria
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March 2003
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Re: old school supras article
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Thu, 19 February 2004 11:24
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hmmmmm.... the article stirred up some reactions...
i noticed the way they said the supras don't handle great.... lol.... my supra feels like a dream....
and the good old 2.8 litre 7m-gte...
ah well
my mates all messaged me and said "your car is in the paper"
recognition is recognition i guess....
ill let everyone think they can beat me round corners....
nah-uh baby nooo sireee...
but yeah, a supra article would be tops. when i do the 5m/mteu hybrid, im going to write up a big tech article for it. why not?
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Re: old school supras article
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Thu, 19 February 2004 11:53
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| Evil_Foetus wrote on Thu, 19 February 2004 22:24 |
ill let everyone think they can beat me round corners....
nah-uh baby nooo sireee...
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haha in the torque monster that is capable of 19 sec 1/4 mile passes
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Re: old school supras article
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Thu, 19 February 2004 11:55
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| BlackSupra wrote on Thu, 19 February 2004 22:53 |
| Evil_Foetus wrote on Thu, 19 February 2004 22:24 |
ill let everyone think they can beat me round corners....
nah-uh baby nooo sireee...
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haha in the torque monster that is capable of 19 sec 1/4 mile passes
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hey, i got it down to 18 last night
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Re: old school supras article
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Thu, 19 February 2004 15:16
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was there a twin cam variant?? the 5mge,
because i heard somewhere that the 7mgte turbo manifold and all that is a direct bolt on.
you just cant boost anything past 6 psi...
or so i heard, can anyone verify this?
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Re: old school supras article
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Thu, 19 February 2004 21:18
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In most other markets, the 5MGE was available in the MA61.
Yes, the 7MGTE turbo manifold literally bolts up to the 5MGE (well, you have to grind away a tiny little bit for the power steering pump). The US boys have been upping the ante a little, and sans intercooler they are winding up the boost to 10 psi.
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